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  • Vorshlag ChumpCar '98 Firebird V6 Project

    Project Introduction: This is the first post on a new project that I am a part of but not in direct control over, and it is not a "Vorshlag Build". A couple of old college racing buddies and I are going in together on a crap can endurance race car build. If you are living under a rock and don't know what that is, there are two competing Wheel-to-Wheel endurance road racing series (24 Hours of LeMons and ChumpCar) where racers have a "$500 budget", buy a piece of crap car, do some safety upgrades and a few repairs, add a roll cage, then go tearing ass around road courses from here to Leguna Seca.

    My first and second CrapCan rides: a 1991 BMW 318is and a 198X Camaro

    Both series have been going for several years and together this "Crap can racing" phenomenon has grown in popularity. We regularly see fields of 40-60 cars at the Texas events. I have run a couple of LeMons races and have watched a few others. My first taste of crapcan endurance racing was February 2011 running the BMW E30 318is above at Eagles Canyon Raceway (ECR) with a 24 hour of LeMons event (double 7hr race). Then I got a ride in Costas' 3rd gen Camaro in another LeMons race at ECR in December 2011. On top of that I did a 4 hour endurance karting race last December. I had such a blast driving in these 3 endurance races in 2011 that I convinced two close friends to join forces to create our own CrapCan entry for use on track late this year or next. We ended up talking about it for a year before we finally chose the car, found the candidate, and got off our butts and bought it.

    Who is Picking this Hoopty?

    If you read my build threads you will recognize their names - Jason McCall and Paul Magyar. We decided a democracy was a bad idea so Jason is the team leader and will make the critical decisions. Paul has his own autocross/track car build (this GC Subaru coupe with an '05 STi swap) and Jason has his Z3M Roadster LS1 and a former Nationals winning BSP autocross Corvette. I have 6 or 7 of my own car projects. So what on earth are we doing building a crapcan car? Well... none of us has a W2W car so we joined forces to make one.

    Jason and Paul are shown goofing for the camera, above

    We talked about a bunch of different chassis choices and benched raced a half dozen semi-serious ideas before we finally blew them all off - the numbers didn't add up and would put us clearly over the $500 budget. Everything we chose was RWD, which we feel is the most reliable platform for racing at this budget level (other than Paul, who kept saying "Subaru!"). RWD eliminates hundreds of potential $500 cars. We also wanted to use something which was built after the mid 1990s, to solve a lot of reliability problems, electrical issues, and pretty much guaranteed the car would have a somewhat modern and efficient fuel injection system (I frakking HATE carbs). That eliminated all of the "fast" cars that were left. After racing with and without ABS brakes in LeMons, I felt that a decent ABS system was a *must* for easy passing under braking (the 318is could out-stop anything on track!), which narrowed the field even more.

    All of our dream builds would cost too much money. You cannot buy a running 1990s BMW E36 or mid-90s-up V8 powered F-Body for $500, which were two of our top choices. I know, some people still end up sneaking them into one series of the other, but we were going for a legit $500 car.

    Are We Actually Buying This Thing?

    After all of those restrictions we had to throw away all of our dream cars, but at least we stuck to our minimum requirements and bought the biggest pile of crap car that nobody wants: a 4th generation "F-Body" Firebird with a V6 and a manual trans. Even when we settled for the lowly V6 F-body, we still had a bare minimum wish: NO T-tops, NO automatic trans, and the 1998-2002 range was much preferred.

    Look at this gem - who could resist that allure?! We had to buy it

    Finding a V6 T5 car with no T-tops proved a tough search but we found a theft recovery + flood salvage titled car (a rare "double loser"!) in the back of a junkyard in July. He wanted $800 so we let the guy stew for a few months and came back and bought it in September for $500. Whoo! I've never been so happy to buy such a pile of sh!t.

    This 1998 Firebird had been broken into, the front bumper cover and headlights were stolen, and the door latch and lock cylinder were gone on one side, but otherwise it was still mostly intact. The owner said that "it ran before they tried to steal it, and we drove it to where it sits now", but the battery was long dead. The jimmied door had been propped open in this field for 2 years so it was full of grass, critters, and smelled like a pack of hobos had been living in it for months. Oh well, all of the carpets and interior were destined for the Dumpster, so we didn't care. These "features" all made for good negotiating tactics.

    We hauled it away on a trailer and went straight to the self-serve car wash to try to get the black mold off of the paint, so we could see how bad it looked underneath. After $2 in change the exterior cleaned up pretty well, but we found some unimportant body damage. We dragged it back to my house and unloaded it from the trailer to take a closer look inside. Oh damn the smell in there! Maybe more like a hobo slaughter house? There was a nest of fire ants under the hood we need to see about fumigating, and we never did get the rear hatch to open (probably find Jimmy Hoffa back there). It has been parked in my driveway for two weeks - the petition from my neighborhood's residents to have it hauled away and burned is circulating.

    TV Tip: This Sunday Sept 30th at 12 noon CST on SPEED Channel they will be airing the Optima Challenge Event which the Vorshlag 2011 Mustang GT should hopefully be featured in. Set your DVRs.

    Goals? Thoughts? Dreams?

    I doubt we will figure out some super secret advantage, so don't expect to see a Brawn F1 Double Diffuser breakthrough on this car. We all just want to build a cheap, reliable, durable car with cheap consumables. Another major goal - it must be CLEAN. We won't be slapping mud and oil all over the car to make it look worse than it is, as McCall and I are neat freaks, so it might be the cleanest car on the grid (at least at the beginning of a race).

    Some of the other ideas will become apparent as we go, but the basics are simple and proven: run as much tire as we can get away with, decent brake pads, and gut the heavy interior out of the car. But we have to get it running, first.

    If/when this rolling hobo shanty is actually running, then we will then get a used front bumper cover, add a race seat, slap on some cheap C4 Corvette wheels and 200+ treadwear tires, replace the brake pads/fluid, then take it to a track day and see how it runs. If it is hopelessly slow we can punt and dump it before there's almost any money invested into it.

    Will there be anything innovative or cool on this build? Probably not. We will try to make some of our scatter brained ideas happen on zero budget, and some of you reading have seen what we could do with almost no budget...

    Yes, I suspect there will be some woodworking done on this car. Plywood is cheap! We should ask for Home Depot gift cards for our birthdays. I'm already seeing a team name... "The Hobo Lumberjacks?" Yea, that's terrible. Gonna need some help here.

    While we have to have a team name (and it won't say "Vorshlag" on it), there won't be any silly theme/funny hats/costumes, and we might even get docked laps for that. This is just 3 guys building a cheap W2W car, meeting both the letter and spirit of the rules, trying to have fun and go as fast as we can. The cage will be over-built, and this is one of the only things that will be built in the Vorshlag shop (but still done after-hours). Not that it matters, as these series allow for good cages and safety gear without dinging the budget.

    Engine and brake cooling will get as much attention as we can afford to throw at it. Whatever we can find at Home Depot is fair game, so look for us in the "Drier Accessories" aisle soon. Hopefully I've learned a few things from the two previous teams that were nice enough to let me co-drive their CrapCans, and if we are lucky we won't make too many new mistakes.

    What's Next?

    To get this project kicked off we plan to wrench on it for most of the day Saturday at my house. We need to try to charge the dead battery, fix the door latch on the driver's side, yank out the interior, clean some mud off the underside, and drain the fuel tank (it will be nasty varnish after 2 years of sitting). Luckily I have a lift, plumbed compressed air, and some limited tools at home. And plenty of cold beer.

    I suspect this will be the least impressive build thread I have ever documented, so don't get your hopes up. And of all that we have started this one has the highest probability of a "crash and burn" failure. Can you tell I am trying to set LOW expectations here? We're going to do this one just for fun, and not the fame and fortune (ha!) that comes with our other forum thread builds. The GRM $2010 Challenge car was a lot of fun and these two knuckleheads were two of the key wrenches on that build, so we have a little experience with a uber-low budget build, but I'm sure we will learn as we go. As with that build, we are again looking to you guys out there for tips and tricks. We know that there are hundreds of teams that have done LeMons and Chump already and we can't pretend to know any more than any of them ahead of us, so speak up if you see us blowing it.

    Question: If anyone has some cheap 17x9.5 C4 "sawblade" wheels or a front bumper cover for a 1998-2002 Firebird, please PM me.

    Check back next time to see if we found some fatal flaw (yet) and have decided to drop this car from an airplane...
    Last edited by Fair!; 11-06-2012, 02:37 PM.
    Terry Fair -
    2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
    EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev

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    Re: Vorshlag ChumpCar '98 Firebird V6 Project

    Project Update for October 3, 2012: Last Saturday, our gang of three met at my house to work on the '98 Firebird. It wouldn't start and we couldn't get the hatch to open, among other issues. Our goal for the day was to gut the interior, charge or replace the battery, and see what we could get working. The weather was perfect - raining and cool, but not cold. With this weather we weren't missing a good race weekend either.

    Paul came by my place early and we met McCall for breakfast at Cabana. Came up with a game plan, stopped by the shop to grab a few tools and my pressure washer, then headed to my garage at home to tear into the '98 Firebird.

    We started by cleaning more funk off the underside of the chassis. With the car on the flatbed trailer and inside the car wash bay we got it fairly clean, but now we had it jacked up in the air in my driveway so I could get underneath with a rain slicker on and blast everything in sight. The transmission was covered in muck, as was the bottom of the oil pan and rear end - got those pretty clean. The insides of wheel wells were more accessible with the suspension at full droop so those got blasted too. Pounds of mud, grease and funk were falling off the chassis. After 20 minutes of this, I was soaking wet for the first time that day, so I went inside and changed into shirt number two.

    The guys rolled it into the garage and one of the first things I did was try to charge the old battery while it was out of the car. Brought my Schumacher smart battery charger home, hooked it up to charge, and it was reading 0 volts on the old one. I had the old battery sitting on a little trickle charger for two days prior with no luck. I set Schumacher to a 6 amp charge and within 15 minutes it had it up to 16%, but then it stopped and showed "BAD BAT" on the display, which means it had a shorted cell. No worries - I was prepared and had a stock replacement Bosch battery ready. It bolted right in up front. Viola! All sorts of things started working. The guys popped the rear hatch and even tried to crank the motor. Whoa! Slow down, let's get the old fluids changed first.

    I was working under the hood and on the hood hinge itself, replacing some missing hardware and getting the hood to align with the fender. I look up and local autocrossers Dean Yamada and Mark Wortham had arrived - sweet! More help. They dove right into the interior (quite literally) and helped Paul and McCall pull the former hobo trappings out.

    The four of them made quick work of the interior and before I knew it the interior was completely out (except for the dash) after only about 45 minutes. I looked at this big pile of bits and saw a few things we could sell to recoup budget... then the guys reminded me this was NOT a GRM Challenge budget build and ChumpCar has none of those accounting tricks. You get your "AIV" (avg internet value) on the car, and that's it. So they convinced me to toss all of this raggedy interior into the trash and so we loaded it into Paul's truck, in the rain.

    With the truck bed completely packed full and the headliner strapped in place, Paul and I took off for the shop where I have use of a rented Dumpster to unload. Don't worry, none of it was good enough to reuse and it all might have netted us $25 or maybe $50 on CraigsList, with those associated hassles. None of us are starving students anymore or wanted to mess with storing or selling it, so we threw out $25 worth of crap. Oh well.

    What I can't show because it was POURING RAIN and Paul was warm and dry inside the cab, was me unloading all of this from Paul's truck bed into a Dumpster. It was coming down in buckets and I told Paul to stay dry so only one of us got soaked, and boy did I! Every square inch of clothing was drenched. I ran over to the back door of the shop and grabbed some clean car towels and dried off a bit, then said "hi" to Ryan. He was in the shop working on a 2000 Camaro Z28 we had purchased for the stock LS1+T56 drivetrain for a customer's turn-key E36 M3 swap. He saw me slosh in the door and had a laugh. Paul drove over and we grabbed a few more things we had forgotten (my house has crap for tools!) and headed to O'Reily's Auto Parts.

    We grabbed a $19.99 oil change special with 5 quarts of Castrol GTX and some "microgaurd" oil filter. Then after a Sonic Drive-Thru food haul, we trucked back to my place to feast on burgers and tots, and I changed out of a soaked shirt yet again. They had the car already up in the air on the lift and we got started on the oil change. Filter was on there good and the oil looked like mud, but thankfully there was no coolant or water in there. Three whole quarts came out, from the stock five quart capacity (facepalm)

    While Paul and I were out dancing in the rain/grabbing food and oil, the rest of the crew was trying to get fuel into the tank. The gauge read below "E", but it wouldn't take any more fuel? It would start to go in, then come all back up and spill out. Hmm, weird. This will take some more investigation. And wouldn't you know who shows up next? Ed from Pirtek. McCall and I have known him for years and he's a fellow 4th Gen. F-Body racer, but of the drag racing persuasion. He mostly shook his head at us and made fun of the car, but he had some good insight into a few things we hadn't messed with on these cars and we appreciated the help.

    Another thing McCall, Dean and Mark worked on while we were gone was removing the SPRING SPACERS from the rear coil springs. That's why the car had such a rake (facepalm). They had also found evidence of NEON LIGHTING, with the mounts still attached to the pinch weld seams along the sides of the floor pan. Dean and Mark hadn't intended on staying more than a few minutes and had been there two hours, so we thanked them for the help and they took off. Ed left at the same time as well.

    The exhaust system on this V6 Firebird was epic - well, an epic FAIL. This kind of made me mad because some goober probably paid a muffler shop good money to make this hodgepodge of poorly bent steel. Normally the stock F-Body exhaust has an under-oil pan crossover pipe from the driver's side that merges into a Y-pipe behind the passenger side manifold, then a single exhaust pipe into a big catalytic convertor under the front passenger seat, and finally back into a big, single-in/dual-out cross-flow muffler. This car had none of the stock pieces intact - just look at this monstrosity.

    Oh yeah, soak in the glory of the finest in redneck engineering mixed with at least a 12 pack of Pabst Blue Ribbon beer! Some knucklehead made a "true dual exhaust" for this V6 of fury and they CAPPED the factory Y-pipe and just ran it side by side. Two glasspack mufflers "mounted" under the car make for the melodious sounds and lead back to two giant 4" chrome tips, most likely bought from a truck stop. Woo-wee! Both over-the-axle tailpipes were crimped horribly and had smashed into the panhard rod and axle in multiple places, almost completely flat at one spot. The reason I think this exhaust work was done by a "real muffler shop" is that they actually put two new catalytic convertors in place, so it would be emissions legal. Somebody probably paid $500 or more for this exhaust eyesore!

    Oh HELL no - we cut all of that sh!t clean off. We will figure out a used stock exhaust replacement solution later, but I will be damned if I am going to drive one inch with that ground dragging mess under there. I won't get into the embarrassing details of how we had to cut the pipes off, because I only brought one carbide cutoff wheel for the die grinder (hacksaw), but after a lot of elbow grease this pile of scrap was on the garage floor. The exhaust mounts.... oh it hurts to think about it... the mounts were all homemade looking and more than half had failed. One of the mounts was WELDED to the brake line bracket in the rear and had ripped free, bending the brake hard lines in the process. One entire side of the exhaust had been dragging the ground for what looked like months of street use. The glasspack on that side was half worn away. This car must have been a thing to see when it last ran - trailing half the exhaust and sparks flying! And if you saw some of the hand written titles on the homemade rap CDs we found in the car, which contain words I will not repeat, you would understand what an epic redneck owned this wreck previously. Trust me - not everyone from Texas wears a ten gallon hat, rides a horse, or make cars like this.

    With most of the custom exhaust cut off behind the two cats and a trickle of fresh fuel in the tank, we again attempted a test fire. The engine would crank like a fiend, but it still wouldn't fire. I wasn't hearing the fuel pump relay or the pump running at Key On, so I had them stop after a few brief tries. Some more Key On tests revealed that the fuel pump wasn't making a peep. We had pretty much figured the fuel pump and in-tank pick-up would be full of varnish and gunk, so we started on fuel pump extraction to take a closer look and at least replace the fuel sock.

    Pulling the fuel tank out of a 3rd or 4th gen F-Body is a bit of a chore because the entire rear-end has to come out. I didn't have a telescoping transmission jack at the shop to hold it up, so we went with the easier way to change the fuel pump in an F-body, which I have done in the past. You cut an access hole in the trunk floor and remove it from above.

    First step was removing the panhard brace, but leaving the axle in place. Then we removed the two fuel tank strap bolts and let the tank come down about four inches, giving us room to cut above it without snagging a fuel line. We went to the interwebs to find the correct location to cut the trunk floor for access to the pump and marked the square hole. After 5 minutes with the cut off wheel, we looked and nope, that was all wrong. The location we could see for the fuel pump on this V6 fuel tank was way different than the V8 fuel tank McCall and I had worked on in the past. Must be a different tank on these cars? The online pictures of the V6 fuel pump assembly looks very different than the V8 unit we had from the 2000 Camaro.

    So we looked under the hole we cut, marked it further back, and cut some more. That looks right! Before we removed any of the lines, we blasted the funky dust covered area with compressed air and got it reasonably clean. Then the factory quick connect lines came off and we... hmm, didn't bring a brass drift to whack the steel retainer ring with. Not having all of my shop tools at home was making this all take a lot longer than normal. We reconnected the lines and blew out the fuel vapors and tried to use a screw driver, nope. Gonna need a brass drift and a real hammer. Oh well, it was our 4 pm cut off for the day (McCall had to head home, I needed to head to the shop to meet a customer, and Paul had to go), so we put the car back in the air and reloaded all of my cars back in there for the day.

    What Next?

    The driver's door is still missing the door latch assembly. I thought we had a found a cheap replacement door latch for the driver's side from Dorman, but it was the passenger latch. The driver's side is only available from the dealer for $94, so off to the junk yards we go for that. We think we can repair the front crossover and Y-pipe section and will look for a cheap stock exhaust to put back in place of the glasspack special. Thanks to some friendly folks on Corner-Carvers, we are buried in good wheel deals, with some C4 sawblades coming our way soon. Still no luck on the bumper cover, but we're not too worried about that.

    Once we go back and get the fuel pump assembly out, we will see what needs to be fixed/replaced and get it back in, then see if the thing will start. If and when it does start, we will dig deeper. I'm pushing to have it running and on track for a test by November 17th, but we will see.

    Last edited by Fair!; 11-06-2012, 02:38 PM.
    Terry Fair -
    2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
    EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev


    • #3
      Re: Vorshlag ChumpCar '98 Firebird V6 Project

      Project Update for Oct 14, 2012: Jason, Paul and I met for only a few hours Saturday morning but we checked off many things on our ChumpCar Firebird prep list, including one major milestone - firing up the engine and driving the car! That step let us know this car didn't have a bum engine and this somewhat risky purchase wasn't a bad idea. Let me rephrase - any $500 wheel to wheel race car plan is always going to be a "bad idea", but ignoring that, this particular $500 Firebird purchase wasn't an absolutely bone-headed buy.

      Factory Fuel Fiasco Fixed

      So we were relatively sure that the original fuel pump in the car wasn't working. In our last post, when we had battery power restored and all of the other electrical systems seemed to work, we would go to Key On - when an EFI pump should run briefly to charge the fuel lines - and we heard no fuel pump noises. We didn't check the fuel pump relay at the time, but since the car had been sitting for close to 2 years we were pretty sure the old fuel in the tank would have turned to mush and possibly clogged the fuel pick-up and/or ruined the pump. Turns out we were right - the old pump was kaput.

      I brought proper brass drift from the shop to my garage and Saturday, after a good bit of hammering by all 3 of us, we managed to get the steel retention ring to rotate and the old fuel pump assembly could finally come out. Safety tip: always strike anything steel with a non-sparking metal like brass if you are working near gasoline fumes. Steel on steel = spark, and spark = boom!

      Once that ring came loose and the pump assembly came out we could see two things: first was the funk nasty residue and rust on the old fuel level sender and fuel pump housing, second was the funk nasty fuel inside the tank. After a little prodding we noticed a black pool of oil sitting right on top of the fuel, and the entire mixture smelled "off". And then when the old fuel pump assembly was laid on the bench, a 3" length of the pressure side hose coming out of the pump just fell off - so even if the pump had worked the pressured fuel would have never left the tank.

      We were prepared with plans and parts to fix both issues, luckily. After a looking online we had found that a brand new replacement fuel pump assembly for this car is around $300, and none of us liked that. We still weren't sure that the motor was even going to start, and if it did, if it would have oil pressure or a blown head gasket, or if the trans was busted or whatever. A lot of unknowns to go and drop another $300 on a new fuel pump replacement (fully 60% of what we paid for the car!) to then find out the motor or something else major was toast. We were still not into this car for much money at this point, so if the motor was hosed we would cut our losses and find another candidate.

      Luckily we got a free donation of a used fuel pump assembly (pick-up, pump and level sender) from Ryan's 2000 Camaro LS1 he just purchased. Not that it matters for the Chump budget, as we can buy replacement OEM parts for pretty much anything this side of a "new motor". Ryan's recent Camaro purchase came with what appeared to be a well used original fuel pump + sender assembly. We still didn't know if that was good or bad, but it was worth testing and it looked almost the same as the V6 unit (the LS1 unit had a fuel pressure regulator inside the assembly while the V6 car had it's regulator under the hood). This used pump simply saved us $300 to find out more, if it would fit and function the same.

      We looked at the fuel tank itself and decided to drain it from the top, to let us avoid dropping the entire axle assembly out of the car to let the tank drop out and roll over to be drained in the normal manner. We bought a $5 pull-action suction pump (no, it was NOT a Swedish p3nis pump - "That's not my bag, baby!") and pulled the fuel and oily gunk out from the top side fuel pump opening. With a slightly longer suction hose Jason and Paul were able to get almost every drop out of the tank, one half quart at a time - luckily it only had 3 gallons inside. Then using some blue shop towels Jason mopped up the rest of the gunk and got the tank virtually spotless inside. Sure, there would be some old fuel in the lines but we hoped that wouldn't account for much. We bought $3 worth of "fuel system treatment" that would go in with 5 gallons of fresh 93 octane to hopefully put any water or other gunk in suspension.

      Once the tank was empty it was time to test the used 2000 Camaro pump. We simply let it hang out in the trunk then connected it to the the OEM Firebird wiring and turned the key for 2 seconds and WHIRRRR! It made noises, and the people rejoiced. It was a small victory but it let us know that the fuel pump wiring was good and that the old pump was indeed dead, in addition to having no hosed connection to the lines outside of the tank. We could also see the fuel tank level sender on this unit working. During a lunch break we ran by two local auto parts stores looking for a replacement in-tank fuel sock or "pre-filter", to replace the old brown unit from the 2000 Camaro pump assembly. O'Reily wanted $35 and Autozone wanted $22, and neither store had one in stock. "Screw that noise" was the general consensus; Until we knew if the motor or trans were any good we were not spending any more money on this risky bet.

      With the 2000 Camaro pump successfully tested we installed the used assembly back into the Firebird's fuel tank, making sure the (cleaned up and re-used) rubber tank seal was seated. Then more hammering on the retention ring, which took a good bit of time. Might need to open up our "access rectangle" a bit more because with as narrow as the opening is we couldn't get a good blow with the drift on the ring except in one place. Doing this in the pits during a race would be a nightmare. Once the pump was secured and all 3 lines were hooked up (pressure, return, vent) we carefully poured in 5 gallons of fresh 93 octane.

      Something was seriously amiss in the refueling system, as it took more than 5 minutes to get a paltry 5 gallons into the tank without the fill tube backing up and puking out fuel. We think it is either a bad tank vent or something along those lines. We fished a coat hanger down the fuel filler neck all the way into the tank, so it wasn't an obvious blockage in the neck. We did note a burned/smashed vent line coming out of the tank previously (see above). We will cut out this plastic vent line section and replace it and test refilling again next time. We also found more spring spacers inside the front coil springs this weekend, so those need to be removed. Free lowering FTW!

      First Test Fire

      All of the OEM interior was in a landfill somewhere so Jason needed a place to sit. I scrounged around my garage and found a low, folding beach chair that fit inside the chassis perfectly. I looked over the chair for an FIA decal but came up short. He hopped in and was sitting at about the right height for a test drive, too.

      After the car was fueled and the pump was replaced with a working unit Jason hopped in and turned the key on and off several times, listening for fuel pressure.

      First fire test video, and yes, it makes car-like noises!

      After about 8 cycles the fuel system was charged and he turned the key. After a few seconds cranking it went VROOM! It ran a little rough for a few seconds but cleared out and sounded like it was firing on at least 5 of the 6 cylinders. The exhaust sounds like ass because we cut off the glasspacks and tail pipes that were dragging the ground. The exhaust is coming from the exhaust manifolds into two aftermarket catalysts and then just cut from there. He ran it for a few seconds then shut it off and we took a look for leaks; No new puddles.

      Time For A Test Drive

      So after we checked the car over for another few seconds, all agreed that the beach chair seating was sufficiently dangerous and dropped the car down off the lift. Jason strapped in.... errr.... sat in the chair and fired it back up. Then he put it in reverse, we crossed our fingers, and he pulled out of my garage...

      McCall took a short ~5 minute test drive around my neighborhood (oh they really love me now) but it told us several things. The engine made good oil pressure, didn't overheat, and it drove pretty well. The brakes work, the clutch is functional, and the transmission shifts through all 5 gears. We were relieved and excited at the same time. This risky purchase may have panned out, woo! The MayPop tires held air, surprisingly, but we didn't want to risk any hooning or burnouts with open exhaust, as the Chief of Police is my next door neighbor.

      What's Next?

      After Jason got back from the test drive we put the car back up the lift and slapped high fives all around. We had only spent about 3 hours but felt much more confident about this car than ever before. Paul had an afternoon event he had to get to so he took off. McCall and I came up with a Punch List of items that needed to happen to meet the Nov 17th ECR track event (see this FB link) to test the car. Could be a short day if something went wrong, and it likely would, but we're hoping to get in some test laps in. What does the car need? Here is a shortened version of our punch list.

      Wheels and tires are a big one. The factory 16x7" wheels have dry-rotted May-Pops mounted that are barely good enough to roll around on. I found a deal on some old school Enkei 3-piece 17x9.5" wheels made for this chassis, less than $50 per corner. Thanks for the hook-up go to LeMons/Chump racer John Rawson! I really just wanted some C4 Corvette sawblades but these are pretty pimp and period correct. JDM, yo!

      These do look pretty fancy but they are kind of old and aged, so we might get by with using them. I still think cheap C4 wheels are more legit for Chump and we might make these Enkies our "pimp wheels" that are only used for TV interviews, high end car shows, and ... oh who am I kidding??

      We don't have any 17" tires to test with at the moment so we'll pony up for a new set of 265/40/17 Dunlops Direzza Star Specs very soon. That's a chunk of change but these 200 treadwear tires are becoming the go-to tire for CrapCan racing and a fresh set of these (a hair under $800) will be part of each event's budget. Still need to track down a driver's side door latch, a stock V6 F-body exhaust Y-pipe, and a '98-02 Firebird front bumper cover. We have a lead on an F-body junk yard in town, if the guy would just answer his phone or e-mails. Need to mount Paul's Ultra-Shield aluminum seat, make some inserts for all 3 drivers, fabricate a harness bar and mount one of Paul's spare 6-point 3" Sparco harnesses with clip-in rings. Order some brake pads and flush the brake system with new fluid. Make some headlight covers (scrap metal) and a cover for the fuel pump access (also scrap). Replace the OEM fuel filter, OEM air filter in the stock housing, and the smashed windshield. Slap in some new OEM replacement spark plugs, plug wires and a serpentine belt. Make sure the A/C works (we forgot to test that), then rip all of the sh!t out. Flush the cooling system, replace everything with some high quality H2O (Waterboy quote). Make some numbers and ChumpCar graphics!

      That's not hardly enough preparation to race W2W, of course, but it might be enough to loaf around ECR in an HPDE group in November to see if the car has any track potential. So that is a sizable list and we have our work cut out for us over the next 4 weeks, but the only real money is the set of tires. I want to wash out the funk-ified interior this week, with some bleach and soapy water. I think we have killed all of the creepy-crawlers but there's plenty of mud/gunk still in there. Everything on the car could still fall apart and catch fire on the first lap, so we're keep the expectations LOW for the first outing. Once I see some lap times in this thing semi-prepped then I will know if we can be halfway competitive. I'm hoping for 2:12 laps but expecting slower than 2:15 on the first outing.

      (continued below)
      Last edited by Fair!; 11-06-2012, 02:38 PM.
      Terry Fair -
      2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
      EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev


      • #4
        Re: Vorshlag ChumpCar '98 Firebird V6 Project

        (continued from above)

        A Word About Rules and Spending

        The rules for spending in the "$500" ChumpCar serious are just as convoluted and strange as they were for the $20XX GRM Challenge. Lots of exceptions are made for safety, brakes, tires, and even OEM part replacements. I don't even pretend to know all of the loopholes and tricks, just what I can read.

        One thing that sets this series apart from LeMons is that Chump uses an "Average Internet Value" for the car and individual "Minimum" set amounts for aftermarket performance upgrades. You have to provide so many eBay or CraigsList ads for similar cars from 4 regions of the country, and we think our car should be right in the $500 AIV ballpark. Beyond that we are keeping it 100% stock, other than the allowed brake & tire upgrades. It is up to the ChumpCar tech crew to determine if we can get that $500 AIV, and we know with a 1998 model car this is risky - but we feel that the V6 Firebird is the opposite of an overdog and we think we will be OK.

        We are replacing worn out OEM parts with new OEM parts - and that is also allowed, with some restrictions. Here are some excerpts from the ChumpCar rules about what can be replaced with what, and not incur a penalty:

        The general consensus:

        Of course, you have to have the rest of the car built to meet all safety rules. And, yes, you can cut the suspension springs (not replace them), replace the shocks with OEM-equivalent units (nothing better), freshen the engine to 100% stock, and/or upgrade the brakes within the “2X rule”… but that‟s it.
        On OEM part replacements:

        4.4.8. Parts Replacement and Post-Race Improvements Teams may replace any worn, broken, ventilated, impaled, defective or bent-beyond-all-recognition parts on their car without affecting the AIV of their vehicle so long as it's OEM part AND it's 100% stock. It can be new or it can be used. (Note – we’re talking PARTS here, not assemblies… like an engine or a transmission. E.g. - a brand new transmission will result in value-add.) Don't go for used hoses, gaskets, shocks, bearings or used spark plugs. We're not that anal. However, no aftermarket performance pieces (used or not), no OEM part that's been modified or upgraded in any way, and no upgraded OEM parts from a more desirable or better performance sports/luxury/upgrade model just because they bolt on to your car. Everything has to be OEM to the original make/model vehicle you race. Parts need to be 100% stock to qualify for the no-value-add rule. It would serve all teams well to keep your auto parts store and junkyard receipts. Operationally critical parts that do not fall into safety equipment exceptions may be replaced with new OEM or OEM-equivalent parts (NAPA, etc) if the parts on the car or used parts are not deemed acceptable for use. These items include radiators, master brake cylinders, master and slave clutch cylinders, shocks, wheel bearings, spark plugs, gaskets, seals, coolant hoses, water pumps, oil pumps, filters, fluids, radiator caps, ignition and accessory switches, and batteries. If it‟s not in that list but you think it should be, contact ChumpCar officials before installing it or you‟ll probably be dinged for its value in inspection.
        See what we mean? They don't expect us to show up and race with a split radiator hose, and they won't ding us if we replace the hose with a new OEM replacement from a parts chain. And we will do some of this simply for reliability.

        These are some of the cheap, OEM replacement parts going on this car for some extra reliability - and we feel they are are 100% legal

        And the rules on Safety/brake/tire upgrades:

        4.7. Safety Equipment DOES NOT Count Toward $500 Total
        4.7.1. Safety equipment described in Section 3 DOES NOT count toward the $500 total value; nor does any theme or engineering addition. In addition to those safety items and processes listed in Section 3, the following are considered safety-related and therefore exempt: Tires: Tire selection is open, so long as the tire is DOT legal and the treadwear is rated at 190 or higher. Wheels, brake calipers, brake rotors, brake pads, brake lines, u-joints and ball joints are open PROVIDED all competitors maintain the “2X Rule” --- that is, the retail price of NEW replacement components shall be within 100% (two times) the cost of NEW OEM equipment, as quoted by the dealer or, when dealer pricing is not available, based on an average price as quoted by three nationally recognized auto parts retail chains (i.e. - Napa, CSK, Pep Boys, O'Reilly, AutoZone, etc.). Driver comfort & information items are open and do not count towards the $500 value (i.e. - steering wheel, removable steering wheel adapter, shifter, gauges, pedals, cool suits, vents, heaters, radio communications, etc.) All fuel hoses, fuel fittings, fuel filters, and related mounts are open and do not count towards the $500 value All fuel-system components upstream of the fuel pump, including tanks/cells, mounts, fillers, vents, etc. are open and do not count towards the $500 value (NOTE: Fuel pumps, carburetors, injection pumps, computers, and individual injectors are NOT exempt from the $500 limit. Basically, things downstream from the pump count towards value.)
        4.7.4. Exhaust systems downstream of the header/exhaust manifold (from the collector back) are open and do not count towards the $500 value. Performance headers are NOT exempt and are NOT included in this ruling, as are turbo-chargers and related performance components.
        4.7.5. Windshields and wipers are open and do not count towards the $500 value. Stock windshields, true Lexan, or circle-track mesh are acceptable; non-Lexan plastic is not acceptable.
        That last bit of rules can allow for better brake pads, wider tires, nicer/safer plumbing and fittings, even different wheels. Just read the rules before you armchair quarterback every expenditure we show here - but if you know the rules and see us making a mistake, please do speak up. I know putting this up publicly opens up this ChumpCar build to more scrutiny than most, but I'm used to that. We pulled it off cleanly with the $2011 GRM Challenge car and we plan to do this build open, fair, and above board - but the car will be clean, reliable as we can make it, and otherwise pretty stock. It might also be but slow or turn into a horrendous fireball. We shall see.

        Check back for future updates.
        Last edited by Fair!; 11-06-2012, 02:38 PM.
        Terry Fair -
        2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
        EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev


        • #5
          Re: Vorshlag ChumpCar '98 Firebird V6 Project

          Project Update for October 22, 2012: Just a quick update covering some work we did last weekend, with a new volunteer lending a hand. The two other key team members were busy, so local Miata racer Nathan W. joined me for a parts run and a little bit of work on the Firebird. He was on our endurance karting team last year and works in the building next to Vorshlag.

          Last week McCall had found a good resource for '96-02 V6 Camaro/Firebird parts on Craigslist, so I arranged a time to meet the guy on Saturday. It was an hour each way and for this particular area I needed... backup, so a local racer and friend of Vorshlag agreed to go with me to check it out. This was a guy's house who had 10+ V6 4th gens in his back yard, so I was a bit leery. Turned out the guy was super knowledgeable, helpful, organized and sold us some spare and needed OEM parts at great prices.

          As with any endurance car, it always makes sense to have spares for just about anything you could quickly replace, especially when these parts are heavily taxed in track use. I've seen CrapCan racers bring everything from spare struts, shocks, rotors, loaded calipers, to electronics, fuel pumps, clutches, transmissions, engines, and even entire spare cars. I don't think we'll get that extreme but we need to have the obvious spares on hand.

          When we went to the Craigslist guy's place, we picked up a lot of cheap V6 4th gen spares, including: a complete fuel pump assembly, driveshaft, two extra front calipers, and a freakin' door latch assembly. Remember, this car had seen some theft damage, including a busted door lock and a stolen door latch on the driver's door. We have been strapping the left side door closed with a ratchet strap, so getting a working door latch was high on my list of accomplishments for the weekend.

          Just seeing the door close and latch... fixing that made me much happier than it should have. Removing the latch from one of this guy's donor cars was a breeze, as was the reinstallation. While Nathan and I took the latch off a busted 4th gen, Junkyard Superman removed a stock 4th gen fuel pump assembly in less than two minutes. While smoking. Over an open fuel tank. I didn't watch him do it, but before he started I did see that it was fully installed. It was totally removed in less time than it took to unbolt three Torx screws on the door latch. When all you deal in is V6 4th gens, you get pretty good at this stuff, I guess? I was too embarrassed to admit that we spent close to 3 hours removing and replacing one in the same car, heh.

          The two-piece driveshaft in this Firebird is wobbly and worn, but now we have a cheap, well used one-piece unit from a '99-02 V6 car as the spare. Apparently GM elected to go with a two-piece driveshaft through '98 on the V6 cars, but switched to the simpler, cheaper one-piece design some time in the '99 model year? We paid tens of dollars for the whole assembly, so we will have a good spare when we need it.

          We came back from our 2.5 hour journey into the odd 4th gen V6 junkyard nirvana and put the door latch on first. I had brought a few tools from VM HQ to my house, but of course was poorly equipped. We fought with the hacked-up manifold down-pipes, but I forgot wrenches so we couldn't get them off. Tool fail! The lone remaining flapping and ripped fender liner was removed and the fuel tank got $5 worth of Lucas fuel system cleaner. Hopefully that "magic elixir", plus a new fuel filter will help to further de-funk the fuel system.

          Exhaust Planz

          Remember back a few posts ago, the picture of the "modified" downpipe assembly? They had taken a perfectly functional factory Y-pipe and crossover and made it into "true dual exhaust hooptiness".

          I cannot and will not let that stay, so we got a replacement OEM 3.8L V6 4th gen Y-pipe and will bolt that on shortly. I will fabricate a custom exhaust system from this new OEM Y-pipe back with some 3" dia. tubing, a 3" chambered muffler, and a turn-down before the axle. Nothing exotic or fancy, but nothing used. Remember the rules discussion from my last post - anything behind the factory exhaust manifolds is free with regards to budget. This will be light, will package well, and should be easy to fabricate. A side-exit exhaust will be a ground clearance problem and/or more work to fabricate.

          Need Help Finding Parts

          We don't have the time or want to risk the cost on this car to build a cage for it before our HPDE test day on November 17th. Instead we're trying to find a bolt-in harness bar like the unit shown below.

          That is an old LG Motorsports 4th gen harness bar that attaches to the rear seat-belt anchors. Finding one of these for the very short term would be a great short-cut to mounting shoulder harnesses for the HPDE test day. No, I don't think these are remotely as safe as a roll bar, but we don't have time to cage the car for one track event. We're willing to take that risk. Once we see the lap times at ECR with 90% of the suspension/brake/preparation accomplished, we will know the potential of the car and will pop the $$$ for the cage.

          So if you have a line on one of these LG Motorsports 4th gen F-body harness bars, please PM me. Thanks!

          The other thing we still need to find is a front bumper cover from a '98-02 Firebird or TransAm. We struck out completely with the Craigslist 4th gen guy. He had a '93-97 Firebird nose that was pretty beat up, but these have different hood and fender shapes. Then I looked at a ripped-to-shreds '98-02 Camaro bumper cover, but it also has a different hood shape, not to mention it was torn badly. That one was $10 so I almost took a chance, but I might as well have lit a match to a ten dollar bill for all the good it would have done us.

          Once we have the front bumper cover I can get the car looking like a car again, then I might be brave enough to drive it from my house to the shop to do the exhaust work, make a seat bracket for Paul's racing seat, and wrap up one or two other things that I need the welder for.

          Last night Paul brought by the seat we are going to try to use, an UltraShield aluminum RallySport seat, with a slider. The slider is made for another car so we will likely make another - but Chump rules limits sliders to 3" of total travel, so this might not be worth doing. Might just bolt it in place for now (and attach to the cage structure when it is installed) and use an insert for the height (and width) differences between drivers. This seat might not make it past the HPDE stage, though, as we would all like to use a better, FIA approved, halo style seat with some lateral head restraint. Also, our a set of 17x9.5" C4 Corvette sawblade wheels should arrive tomorrow. Can't wait to get them on the car!

          More soon,
          Last edited by Fair!; 11-06-2012, 02:37 PM.
          Terry Fair -
          2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
          EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev


          • #6
            Re: Vorshlag ChumpCar '98 Firebird V6 Project

            Project Update for Nov 6, 2012: A lot has happened behind the scenes on this 4th gen Firebird project. There was a little game of musical chairs or hot potato, where somehow now I am the Team Captain/car owner. So you will notice the change in the thread title, and the Vorshlag logo on pictures from this point on...

            After reading a rather positive article in a recent issue of Automobile magazine, which focused a lot about ChumpCar and Lemons racers coming from professional race teams like Riley and many NASCAR/Cup teams, I am no longer worried about "tainting" our company name by putting it on a $500 CrapCan race car. We aren't even a professional race team, just a motorsports manufacturer/vendor and race preparation shop, so who cares? And I shouldn't have ever been worried, as we did this for two years in another CrapCan series, the GRM $20XX Challenge. I had my worries and fears there but after seeing the event and other racers first hand, and the positive reaction by customers and fans from our build there, I quickly lost my concerns. And at least with this series we can work on the car in our shop, with our employees wrenching, without the restrictions that GRM Challenge had on pro vs volunteer work. A lot of the work will still be done after hours by the original crew of Magyar, McCall, and I though.

            Bumper Cover and Wheels

            I found a set of C4 Corvette wheels cheap on Corner-Carvers ($150 with tires!), and they arrived about a week or so ago. The tires were even good enough to do some laps on at ECR, mounted with 275/40/17 Firehawk SZ50 tires, 220 treadwear. The tires were free, so of course they have seen better days, but we'll put in a few laps on them just to get a good idea of where we are on lap times.

            Magyar and I worked at my house last Thursday night to mount the C4 wheels - should be 5 minutes of work, right? Ha! I wish. Getting the stock 16x7" alloy wheels off the car took a LOT of torque on the impact gun. We had to spray some of the studs with WD40 and let them soak to get a few lug nuts off. The studs are all rusty and the hubs were worse. The rear wheels bolted on but at full droop the inside of the rear tires hit the mounting platform for the chassis-to-axle bump stop mounts. Hmm, we will tweak the mounts or add some wheel spacers. The front wheels, however, wouldn't bolt on...

            With a little effort we finally got the wheels to sit on the hubs, but they were still not fully seated. The rust was so thick on the hubs that they were over-sized. The old lug nuts were rusted to crap, so we tossed them in the trash and replaced them with some new Vorshlag M12-1.5 lug nuts with a 17mm hex and a little dab of anti-seize. The wheels were put on and threaded a little bit, but the fit was terrible. We are going to have to get some new hubs on the car and try this again at the shop.

            Paul and I loaded the Firebird into the trailer and on Friday we unloaded the car at the Vorshlag shop once again.

            Bumper cover off, then finally in place. We will make sheet metal covers for the old pop-up headlight covers.

            On Saturday we had ideal weather so Magyar and I worked on fitting the replacement bumper cover to the car, along with some help from my engine builder and friend Erik Koenig. So a week earlier McCall had found a CraigsList ad for a '98-02 Firebird bumper cover, hood and one Trans Am side skirt for $150, which was a far cheaper price than decent bumper covers alone. The cover has a tear in it, and it is silver instead of white, but it worked perfectly and really cleaned up the look of the car. That missing bumper cover made the car look like a big mess. We had to rivet the retaining plates to one end but it went on without too much fuss. The spare (black) hood will be here in case/when we need it, and the side skirt can be re-sold to another 4th gen owner in need.

            Some Prep Work At Vorshlag

            Left: The interior was pretty nasty even under the OEM carpets. Right: After two hours of scrubbing it cleaned up!

            After McCall, Magyar and I cleaned the top side, under chassis, and under hood areas, the last bit of funk left was the interior. We had removed the hobo hideout interior, but the floor pan and trunk area were still pretty funky. One of my guys here at the shop spent a good two hours scrubbing the interior sheet metal and washing out the funk, with about 8 drain plugs pulled so that the water wouldn't stand in there. Looks like there was already some standing water surface rust, but it is merely cosmetic and there is zero rot on this chassis - just like pretty much any Texas car we see. We also got the last of the green mold from the door jambs, trunk and under the side door trim on the outside. Cleaned up nicely!

            A new mechanic that is starting with us (Olaf) worked under the hood today, changing the spark plugs, plug wires, and serpentine belt with some cheap OEM replacement parts. The car was running terribly of late - felt like maybe 4 or 5 cylinders were hitting - so I hope this and the new O2 sensors can help fix that miss. Yeah, when the Y-pipe came out we noticed one of the front O2 sensors was melted and ruined, so the forward two sensors will get replaced soon with OEM parts (Bosch).

            Another repair underway here at the shop is the removal of the custom "dual exhaust" crossover pipes and in its place goes the used, OEM replacement Y-pipe and crossover. Instead of using a factory catalyst in the stock location (under the passenger seat) we are instead placing a big 3" Flowmaster three chamber muffler in the same spot. Driving the car with open exhaust has been LOUD, but this 15.5 pound stainless 3" muffler should be nice and quiet. The case length is almost 20" and it is heavy gauge 409 stainless, so it should last a long time. The rest of the exhaust will follow the transmission tunnel and dump behind the rear seat area. And remember - none of the exhaust behind the factory manifolds counts towards our $500 AIV budget. So why not make it quality, quiet, light and reliable?

            Our fabricator extraordinaire Ryan will build the rest of the system this week. He is also going to fabricate the seat bracket to adapt the Sparco Dual Locking Slider to the UltraShield racing seat. We just ordered an OEM replacement fuel filter, air filter, and upstream O2 sensors (to replace the melted ones). I will post up again soon when the exhaust and seat are installed.

            UltraShield seat mocked-up in place. Brackets being built next.

            So at the end of the day here Magyar and I weighed the car as it sits now. The race seat is sitting in place, and the Flowmaster muffler is sitting where it should be, but on the passenger floor. It has five gallons of fuel, but it was still much heavier than I had hoped...

            The Firebird sitting on the scales for the first time...

            2998 pounds!? I had guessed almost 100 pounds lighter in its current state - wishful thinking. Oh well, "it is what it is". Now we know where we are at and there is a good bit of weight left to pull out. This is good because there's at least 100 pounds of roll cage and safety gear left to go in before it is safe enough for W2W. We have less than two weeks until the ECR track day on Nov. 17th - lots of little parts are inbound, and we have a lot of little jobs to complete.

            More soon...
            Last edited by Fair!; 11-06-2012, 07:59 PM.
            Terry Fair -
            2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
            EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev


            • #7
              Re: Vorshlag ChumpCar '98 Firebird V6 Project

              Hmm, I am surprised about the 60% front weight...

              Do you need headlights for some of the races that might run into the dark?



              • #8
                Re: Vorshlag ChumpCar '98 Firebird V6 Project

                Is it just the photo, or is the front caster really whack? Wheels seem offset to the rear and not centered in the opening. Is the sub-frame bent?


                • #9
                  Re: Vorshlag ChumpCar '98 Firebird V6 Project

                  Update for November 24, 2012: It has been about 3 weeks since my last post and we have been busy on other projects, but the Firebird got some parts and attention as well. We didn't take the Firebird to the ECR track day on Nov 17th, as we had our hands full with our 2011 Mustang and Matt's 2013 BRZ, so we are shooting for the ECR "Toy Run" event on Dec 8th instead. The day before that, most of Vorshlag is going to Austin to drive Cadillacs around the new F1 track. So Friday afternoon we'll finish the COTA driving event, haul ass back up to Dallas, and load up the various cars for the track ECR day on Saturday. Busy weekends never seem to end, even in the "off season".

                  There's been yet another ownership change - this car is a hot potato! My wife Amy hated the idea of Vorshlag taking over the Crapcan build, so we worked out an even split among the 3 principle team members (McCall, Magyar and me), and now it is no longer a "Vorshlag project" once again. Which is fine with me - I just want to drive the damned car, and don't really care who owns what.

                  I worked late one night last week and bolted in this LG Motorsports 4th gen F-body harness bar. McCall had used one of these for HPDE events more than a decade ago and and Luis at LG found a brand new one buried in the back of their shop and loaned it to us - thanks, Luis! We'll use this just for the HPDE testing, before we tackle the roll cage. Again - to minimize dollar risk up front, we are waiting for the first HPDE test's lap times and looking at the general performance of the car there, before we dive in to the really spendy safety bits (like the cage, fire system, etc). The harness bar fits great and will be a fine place to hang the shoulder harnesses from. Of course a roll cage is safer, but this is temporary and will never be used in any W2W use (not that anyone would be fool enough to let us).

                  New Possible Name: Swamp Thing

                  We got brand new replacement rotors front & rear for $85 total - that's cheap for 12" bits!

                  Paul and I worked on the ChumpCar Firebird over the 4 day holiday weekend and got a little bit more knocked out. We had been acquiring a lot of OEM parts to replace wear items and picked up some cheap rotors, really cheap semi-metallic brake pads ($45 for front and rear!), front hub assemblies, and some caliper rebuild kits. We wanted to get the brakes refreshed on Friday and we did.

                  This car is unusually rusty and filthy underneath, especially for a Texas car - we usually don't see a spot of rust on anything, other than a little surface rust on bare steel/iron items like brake rotors. The front and rear hubs, rotors, control arms and such are all really crusty. It was like maybe this car was owned by Swamp People that drove through the bogs on a daily basis, and maybe parked it in standing water. It does have a "flood damage title", so maybe it spent some time at the bottom of a lake? I dunno - but the hubs were so rusty we had trouble removing the stock wheels, and the crust was so thick that the C4 Corvette wheels wouldn't even bolt on. The old front wheel hubs didn't match side to side, either, as one had different style wheel studs than the other. Instead of spending time cleaning up the rust from the front hubs' wheel mounting surface we just got OEM replacements - so for $53 (each) the entire front hub assemblies are brand new, and a matched pair once again.

                  At this point I was already covered in brake fluid, and so was Paul

                  Next we moved onto the front caliper rebuilds. This was filthy, nasty work and I regretted not just buying rebuilt calipers instead - but this saved us hundreds of dollars and was more in the spirit of ChumpCar, so Paul and I rebuilt the twin piston PBR front OEM calipers. Yes, this car has pretty good stock brakes, the same as the '98-02 LS1 V8 F-bodies. The rebuild kits for all 6 corners was $23, with an extra pair of front rebuild kits for the spare ($15) used front calipers we picked up from Joe Dirt. Took the better part of an hour to get all of the dust seals and caliper seals replaced, but I'm glad we did it. The caliper internals were full of filth muck, which we cleaned out thoroughly in the parts cleaner.

                  The pistons and bores cleaned up nicely and Paul eventually got them back together correctly (neither of us had rebuilt a caliper in 10 years, but it finally came back to us). Paul slapped the new rotors on and the O'Reily semi-metallic brake pads went in place (yes, we are being cheap for our HPDE outing, and we know they might not last 20 laps - but that's OK for the first test outing). After the first caliper was bolted on we ended up with extra parts (pad guide end plates) so we took it all apart and put it back together again, properly. Getting old sucks - and is why Paul or I are not mechanics anymore, and why I have two qualified techs that I pay to work on customer cars and our Vorshlag shop cars. They try to keep me out of the shop - for good reason!

                  Before we finished up the front we found the camber adjustment on the front lower control arm mounting hole, which is slotted from the factory. We loosened the 21mm bolt head and used a pry bar to rock the arm all the way outboard, which ended up with a whopping -1.4° front camber per side. Yea, that's not really enough, but slotting this hole a little more is both an easy and free mod, even by ChumpCar standards. We'll try to get it closer to -2.5° camber, which tends to work well on street tires. It is a proper "SLA" front suspension, so maybe it will not need that much static camber. It is something we will test at the track. Once we have the camber setting down we will either make bolt-in or weld-in slugs for the slotted holes - since those have a tendency to slip under heavy track use.

                  We moved to the back and removed the calipers and rotors. The rear E-brake system is a drum brake inside the rear rotor and it fought a worn down drum edge lip coming off, and a few pounds of mud and snail shells fell out of each drum assembly. This was owned by Swamp People, like I said. Who leased out the interior to hobos. Paul used compressed air and blasted out more mud and critters from inside the rear brake drum area. The whole shop was then full of Swamp Dust.

                  Once the caliper was off we made a judgement call and did not rebuild the rears yet. Laziness had a part in that, to be sure, but they looked fine. We had somehow gobbled up nearly 4 hours of futzing on the car and were also getting hungry. So the $20 rear brake pads went in (to match the $24 fronts - literally the cheapest pads O'Reily sold for this car), then the rear rotors, and back together it all went. I cleaned the hub mounting surface with a wire wheel on a die grinder, knocking the rust off the rear axles, and then the C4 wheels slid right on. We spent a solid 45 minutes flushing the old brake fluid out and bleeding the system with new, good, fresh brake fluid. We already had new Vorshlag lug nuts installed from the last round of work, so with some new anti-seize on the new front wheel studs we bolted up the wheels and set it down.

                  The spark plugs, wires and serpentine belt had been replaced already but we hadn't fired up the car in weeks. So as we were bleeding the brakes I fired it up - and shut it off quickly. It was running on maybe 3 cylinders. WTF? We took a look at the firing order and the plug wires were just mixed up. After a couple of minutes of tracing the wires from each plug to the distributor-less 3-coil-pack up top, we had it wired right and it fired up and ran perfectly. It really sounds great, except for the open exhaust. Can't wait to get the new muffler/system built. Need to work on the seat bracket and call a windshield guy. Lots to do before December 8th.

                  Thinking Ahead: Cooling?

                  For the Dec 8th test we're not doing anything crazy, just getting the car running in nearly stock form - with fresh OEM brake parts, new fluids, gutted interior, race seat + harness, and the C4 wheels and 275mm tires bolted on. The tires we have mounted were free and thus crap, but we should still get a number of laps in. I hope this gives us a rough idea of what it will run with fresh tires and better brake pads. From running two Lemons races at ECR in the past I know what the target lap times need to be, and if we're within ~4 seconds in this first outing we will know if we're on the right track.

                  What worries me for endurance racing in this car isn't the cornering grip or handling, nor the weight or horsepower, not even the lap times (yet), and definitely not the brakes. It is cooling. Keeping this car from overheating with the stock radiator and cooling parts is going to be tough.

                  So we're thinking outside the box a bit and might try to reverse duct the hood. You can see a little of what I'm talking about in the above picture. I am getting a little ahead of myself so we will talk more on this after the HPDE test.

                  That's all I have for now... will report back either just before or just after the Dec 8th test.
                  Terry Fair -
                  2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
                  EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev


                  • #10
                    Re: Vorshlag ChumpCar '98 Firebird V6 Project

                    Project Update for December 6th, 2012: Well we have been hacking away at the ChumpCar Firebird for the past week and a half and we are accelerating the work to meet the Dec 8th ECR test date deadline. Not another track day for weeks, the weather is perfect, and this is the right track to test at (at least where I have the most first hand racing LeMons/Chump experience and lap times). Let's catch up to today...

                    Some "Easy" Suspension Work

                    Last weekend PaulM, McCall and I worked for about five hours on the suspension. We planned on lowering the front about 2", which would add more static negative camber, and the goal is -2.5 to -3°. We've used the stock lower control arm adjustment slot and it is at -1.4° now. The idea was to cut the front and rear springs and lower the car, then maybe work on slotting the upper A-arm mounts for more negative camber, if needed.

                    The rear was easy for Paul to try our first ride height iteration - just removing the giant rubber spring isolators should be good enough for about an inch of lowering. While the springs were out, we rated them on our digital spring rater and they came out to roughly 110 #/in, which is the exact same rate as stock 4th Gen F-body Z28 rear springs. Not a surprise, as they have the same spring tag part number.

                    While Paul was messing with the springs and I was rating them, McCall finally fixed the fuel tank vent tube problem, cutting out a section of melted plastic vent line and replacing it with a 90° piece of rubber hose. The piece of hose came from one of the many boxes of parts from the old E30 GRM Challenge car. All three of us spent hundreds of hours building that car, which was recently burned to a crisp in a transport fire Car-B-Que, that is talked about here on Jalopnik. Sad news for everyone, especially the new owner.

                    Former SCCA F Stock National champion autocrosser Casey Weiss brought by a gift basket full of free OEM 4th Gen parts, as he has switched from racing the old 4th Gen F-bodies (several of which he owned from 1993 until 2010) to the S197 Mustang Shelby GT. He has had a gaggle of parts gathering dust in his attic for years and was glad to drop them off, hoping we could use them in the Firebird. Brake pads, brackets, and all sorts of stuff. One of the pieces he had was a new front sway bar mounting bracket, which bolts to the front frame horn. They get bent when a cloghead wrecker tows a car using the sway bar as a yanking point, like the right front piece is above. We only found one, but it was new and exactly the same, so McCall bolted that on and now the front sway bar is mostly straight.

                    Another of the parts from the Weiss treasure trove was this little auxiliary battery bracket that some other 4th Gen racer made and gave him eons ago. That's a piece of aluminum strap bent to fit perfectly over an OEM sized battery (which we have). It first bolts to the normal, lower "plastic clamping block" and loops over the top of the battery and bolts to an unused hole in the radiator support. Instant double-secure over-the-top battery mount, which I'm sure tech inspectors love to see. I slapped a piece of rubber in there to prevent abrasion to the case and we were good to go.

                    At this point "the easy stuff" pretty much ended...

                    Front Struts Sh!t The Bed

                    The Plan at this point was to pull the front "struts" (yes, I know they are technically coilover shocks, but they look more like a strut, and everyone calls the front shocks "struts", even if that is inaccurate), then cut the springs and put them back on. Easy, right? Well to get the springs off you have to compress them, remove the strut top nut, then the top isolator, then the upper strut mount, then you can remove the spring to cut it. But like on so many other 4th Gens we've worked on in the past, nothing went according to plan.

                    We were once again screwed by the Swamp People that owned this car previously. Lots of rust on the upper control arm assembly and of course the top of the strut was all rusted and the top nut seized. GM's original design was prone to rusting this top nut on, as it captures and holds water and dirt, and usually these are seized on. But normally you can cut off the top nut, very carefully, and salvage the strut & upper strut mount. We also finally found where the ant colony was living, right there in the recess of a front strut mount. It's hard to see in the picture above, but it was crawling with live ants. Which we then plastered with brake cleaner, soaked everything in WD40 and PB Blaster, and anything else we could find to help un-stick the top nuts.

                    No luck. The top nuts were seized solid. I spent about an hour cutting into the meat of the nut, on opposite sides, then knocking them off. Managed to not destroy the threads on the upper strut stems, because I have done this crappy type of job too many times in the past. With the nut off, we tried to pull the upper spring perch/upper strut mount off. UHHHHHHGGGG!! ...the hell? Won't come off. There's still a bit of spring preload on them, so while the strut assembly was still secure in the spring compressor and the spring contained, I started tapping the strut mount upwards with a small hammer. Then I started swinging that hammer. Then I got the "Do More" (5 pound sledge). Not even budging.

                    Paul and McCall took the first strut and set it up in the 30K ton hydraulic air/hydraulic press and let her rip, while I started on the 2nd strut nut removal surgery. I watched them a bit once they got it secured in there and... whoa... the whole top mount was deforming 4-5 inches, then.... POW! BANG! The strut shoots out the bottom of the mount, the spring went clanging harmlessly across the floor, and it was finally apart. But this process ripped the strut mount to shreds, as a steel sleeve normally bonded into the rubber mount was now seized solid to the strut shaft. WTF?! At this point we tested the OEM struts and realized they were ruined, as they had no gas pressure left (factory deCarbons should have "gas under high pressure"), so we punted on the surgical removal of the steel sleeves. After five hours into that Sunday "Chumpwerks" session, we were out of parts, out of beer and out of patience.

                    Monday we ordered a pair of new front struts. The cheapest struts we could find were $53 each from Monroe. Then a pair of $31/each replacement OEM strut mounts (above right), plus $4 each for the "top nut isolators". This was supposed to be a free "just cut the springs!" mod, but turned into a $175 clusterf*ck. Sheesh.

                    More Race Preparation

                    With the struts ruined, that meant that the damned Firebird was stuck on a lift here at Vorshlag Monday morning, so our shop guys Olof and Ryan attacked the remaining punch list race preparation items on the Chumpcar in waves, between other customer work, work on the 2013 Mustang GT, and work on one of my other cars. Olof started on the sliding seat bracket and harness anchor install. You can see part of the tubular steel frame made here, which bolts to the four factory seat mounting holes, has new holes for the Sparco slider to bolt to, then a cross bar for the two anti-submarine belts. A Sparco 6-point cam-lock harness with clip-in ends mounts to anchors in the sub crossbar, two floor anchors, and the shoulder harnesses wrap around the harness bar.

                    The Sparco dual-locking slider works great, the UltraShield "big boy" seat (it is freagin' HUGE) is mounted low and centered with the wheel. While belted in place, I have inches of headroom to the non T-top roof, which is good because Paul and I are both 6'3" and McCall is no slouch either. We all fit great in the car with tons of room to the door and tunnel. Damn this car is wide! This seat in an E36 BMW would be 4" outside of the outer door skin. The slider allows for about 18" of fore-aft travel. None of this is ChumpCar legal yet, as under their rules we will have to install a roll cage (obviously) and a seat back support if the slider has more than 3" of travel. Good enough for HPDE use, though.

                    The old OEM Torque Arm bushing was replaced with fresh OEM part and the cast steel "damper weight" was removed. Olof worked on this and removed the weight, replacing that bracket made of steel sheet metal with some washers. The old bushing was oil soaked and shot, and that could make for unsafe axle hop under heavy braking.

                    In order to cover the giant hole we made extracting the dead fuel pump, a fuel pump access panel cover was made from some scrap aluminum and is held in place by six bolts and six nutserts Ryan installed. That little nutsert assortment and tool kit we purchased a while back gets used a lot when working on race cars. So much nicer to unbolt something than having to cut the heads off of pop-rivets.

                    (continued below)
                    Last edited by Fair!; 03-12-2013, 07:32 PM.
                    Terry Fair -
                    2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
                    EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev


                    • #11
                      Re: Vorshlag ChumpCar '98 Firebird V6 Project

                      (continued from above)

                      The busted windshield was replaced today by the guys at Titan Auto Glass, who have done several windshield R&Rs for us at Vorshlag. The old dash was very brittle and already cracked in a couple of places, but that the effort of swapping the windshield in/out tore it up badly. It is pretty well trashed now. Oh well - it is a ChumpCar.

                      Ryan did his normal, beautiful work on the exhaust. We still have the stock exhaust manifolds in place (required to or we take an AIV adjustment), and even the stock Y-pipe. From there it becomes a 3" stainless mandrel bent exhaust system with the big 3-chamber 409SS Flowmaster muffler. The giant 21" long Flowmaster case barely fits in the passenger floor "bump" where the factory catalyst normally resides.

                      The system routes back into the transmission tunnel and has a 3" turn-down right before the axle. The polyurethane exhaust hanger isolators hold the system to the custom brackets he fashioned to the chassis. A little extra clearance was gained by trimming the transmission crossmember slightly. The finished system is light (31.2 lbs), has excellent ground clearance, and has zero leaks. Yes, it is far nicer than a Chumpcar exhaust has any right to be, but it all had to be re-done and it wasn't much extra work to "Do It Right". The exhaust sound is very quiet, which will be appreciated in 2+ hour long endurance drives. We will get videos with the sound at ECR this weekend.

                      We couldn't hope to have the $45 set of brake pads and our $18 rotors last any amount of time on track without some cool air blasting on the rotors. We looked for the cheapest brake ducting we could find and this "Allstar Performance" black neoprene 275 degree hose (p/n 42150) seemed to fit the bill. A whopping $30 for 10 feet of hose, and we didn't even use it all. It is 1/3rd the cost of the "good stuff" in 3", and 1/5th the price of the good 4" hose we've used on other cars.

                      Ryan then used some scrap 3" exhaust tubing and made the mounts, which bolt on the end link and sway bar. If you look closely, you will see part of a J-hook normally found on a pegboard, which he added to string a hose clamp around to hold it to the sway bar. Perfect mod for Chump - pegboard hooks! The brake duct hose pops out unceremoniously at the fog light openings up front. Nothing fancy, nothing we'd do on a real race car, but fitting for a $500 crapcan.

                      Replacement Struts Arrive (two days late)

                      Today (Wednesday) the freagin' Monroe "SensaCrap" front struts finally arrived, so the guys got busy installing the now cut front springs onto the replacement struts. Well... we quickly realized one of the old deCarbon struts was MISSING, along with the removable, lower OEM spring perch that we needed to go onto the Monroe units. With no fewer than eight people looking for almost an hour, including two folks dumpster diving, we gave up the search. Paul was the last one playing with one of the struts Sunday, which we found was out of gas, and he thinks he threw it away. (facepalm) That was four days ago and the trash has been taken our multiple times since.

                      So now we needed one OEM lower spring perch, which we reluctantly stole off of a set of old 4th Gen Koni adjustable front struts I have had laying around for the past 15 years. See Amy, that is why I don't throw stuff away! The stems were stripped on those Koni struts already, but we had used them for mock-up and some other measurements in the past. The Koni's had to have the shafts cut off to get the perches apart, because they were corroded and fused together as well. The guys got to work and installed the cut springs, new struts, new strut top mounts, isolators, and the upper control arm assembly back in place. Once the top isolator and strut top nut were in place, I slathered the upper pocket and strut stem in moly grease. This way the water splashing up into this area won't corrode/fuse the top nut and sleeve to the strut shaft.

                      Before and After ride heights

                      With the assembled struts and cut springs (one coil removed) back in one piece, the front suspension went back together quickly and within half an hour the car was mobile and off the damned lift again! As you can see, the front ride height dropped quite a bit and negative camber went to -2.5°.

                      The old Firestone tires that came free with the C4 Sawblade wheels were looking a bit too crusty, so I bartered with American Iron racer Mike Patterson from next door at AST/Moton and got some of his old Toyo RA1 take-off tires in 275/40/17. The RA1 is technically an "R compound", but from testing Hanchey and I did way back in 2005, these make identical grip numbers as fresh Falken RT-615 street tires did, at least back then on his 97 M3. So I was thinking that these old RA1s should behave about the same as a fresh 200 treadwear street tire (Falken, Dunlop, or whatever we go with). It will make for more accurate (and more fun!) testing this weekend than rolling around on very old and crusty street tires.

                      What's Left?

                      Once the Firebird was mobile again (and finally off that lift!), I took it for a quick spin around the building and it was smoking like a fiend. Don't know what that is - it never smoked like this before. Of course it has multiple oil leaks, but this was stuff dripping (or already on) right on the manifolds and exhaust system. It could be hand prints from the work we just did, but it seems like a lot. Need to get it in the air and investigate further. And we need some vinyl on this thing...

                      The front toe setting is all kinds of wonky, so that needs to be addressed. The driver's side airbag was removed (along with the airbag fuse), but we'll reinstall the old horn button tonight. Olof started on the mechanical gauge install, but we won't risk the extra hassles of grafting the three new sensors to the oil and coolant systems just yet, as the car has a functional water temp gauge and we will watch it like a hawk. That gets pushed until after ECR. The front ride height looks about right and the car doesn't look half bad on the Enkei wheels. Again, we will likely race on the C4 Sawblades exclusively, but it won't hurt to test on the blingy blue Enkei's.

                      Last night McCall and Paul came to the shop and knocked out some more work. The rear springs were removed and part of a coil was cut. They are now "just enough" shorter and the car is level. Then they checked all of the fluids, went over the last few things on the punch list, and called it "good enough". Today Ryan and Olof aligned the front (-2.0°, zero toe) and checked over some other items. It is as ready as it can be, without spending any more money.

                      Friday night after we get back from driving Cadillacs at COTA, we will come to the shop and load this Firebird on McCall's trailer, then head out to ECR Saturday morning. We are also taking our 2013 GT (which I'm driving on AST 4200RR coilovers for the first time) and the 2011 GT (which Amy is driving), and Matt is taking his BRZ. Look for photos and video next week.

                      Terry Fair -
                      2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
                      EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev


                      • #12
                        Re: Vorshlag ChumpCar '98 Firebird V6 Project

                        Project Update for December 20, 2012: Well the maiden voyage for this future ChumpCar Firebird on December 8th at ECR's annual "Toy Run" event went better than expected. We had a few issues on the Firebird and found several other items that need attention, but overall it was a very positive test. Paul, Jason and I did 5 sessions in the car and nothing caught fire, nothing leaked, the $45 brake pads held up nicely, and nothing important broke on the car - which was a minor miracle.

                        Kickin' it at COTA

                        So this was a crazy weekend. The day before the Toy Run, most of the Vorshlag crew plus Paul and Jason were all at Circuit of the Americas driving Cadillac CTS-Vs on the F1 Track. Unbelievable experience, and being one of the first ~100 people to drive this new $400M track was pretty cool. We did that on Friday, then drove back from Austin to Dallas and loaded the Firebird onto Jason's open trailer for the ECR event on Saturday. The guys still at the shop had loaded our red 2011 Mustang into our enclosed trailer and had the black 2013 GT ready for track use, too.

                        Once we all got to the track, the Firebird was unloaded from the open trailer and adjustments to the harnesses were made, to fit the different seating positions of the three of us. Above, Tim Bergin is "lending a hand" to help Paul get the submarine belts adjusted, and NOT doing a prostate exam. Paul is telling me that I am number 1!

                        That same day I was driving my new 2013 Mustang GT and doing some suspension testing/verification (dropped 3 seconds from an AST coilover install), Amy drove our 2011 GT, and Matt drove his 2013 BRZ. We had a bit of a compound with all of our trucks, trailers and cars all plopped together in the paddock.

                        At the beginning of the day, Jason and Paul tried to get the eBay purchased throttle pedal installed, but after removing the old piece they realized it was very different (probably a V8 pedal assembly) and put it all back together. The "foot pedal" is missing and needs to be swapped over to the old arm, so we will work on that over the winter (we needed a very small punch to drive out a roll pin). Driving with just a stick was a little challenging, but not impossible. Made heel-toe downshifts a LOT slower than normal, but it could be done.

                        The driver's door mirror has always been loose, but the repair was missed on our Punch List, so I used some duct tape to get it to keep from wobbling. The stock rear view mirror needs to be replaced with a Wink or some other wiiiiide mirror, for better rearward visibility.

                        Our only "livery" was this Corner-Carvers forum logo that I slapped on midway through the day. The blue wheels look a bit blingy and won't be used for actual ChumpCar racing - the plain jane C4 sawblades look more appropriate. Still, we bought the blue Enkeis from a fellow ChumpCar racer at a screaming good price. Good practice wheels. The blue color seemed to be a crowd favorite, so we might paint the C4 wheels the same color and stick with that vinyl for the livery.

                        The 275/40/17 Toyo RA1 tires we got from AI racer Mike Patterson were "vintage". The first few laps Paul took on them during the first session were pretty hairy, but once he scrubbed off the old dead rubber they woke up again. I got one short session in the Firebird and Jason and Paul took two sessions each. When I made my three hot laps (my lone session in the car got "extremely shortened", for scheduling reasons) the grip level felt fine, with a few disclaimers.

                        Lateral Grip showed to be 1.1g on the AIM Solo. Braking wasn't up to snuff, as hard braking produced ample axle hop. Acceleration up hill and off camber caused axle hop. Pretty much anything extreme caused axle hop. This is something we will address, as it was painfully clear that the rear shocks were completely blown - just like the fronts were when we got it. These Swamp People are tough on dampers! We dealt with the rear shock issue by early braking a bit and easing into the throttle in the two uphill corners (T5 and T10) that were giving the car fits.

                        The only real problem that cropped up was an ignition miss, which seemed to worsen throughout the day, with rising underhood heat. This miss was non-existent in the first session, just started to rear its head in the second session (light miss at low RPM), and by the fifth session the misfire was worse than ever. It was bad enough that we had to short-shift at 4000 rpm to avoid it getting violent. Hours later, after eating dinner and towing the car across town to unload at my house, it fired up and ran smooth again. So we think this is HEAT related and the likely culprits are the ignition coils.

                        The Buick 3.8L V6 engine that the 1996-2002 F-bodies come with have three coil packs mounted right on top of the engine (and no distributor), very near an exhaust header. We think the heat soaking from the engine was putting one or more of the coils into "the danger zone". It felt like it was missing on two cylinders, which makes the most sense. The plug wires and spark plugs were new OEM replacement pieces, correctly installed, and we rechecked them at the event.

                        Luckily this Buick V6 engine is very common among GM platforms and the coils are CHEAP to replace. These same coils were apparently used from 1986 until 2005 on millions of Buick 3.8L V6 powered GM cars, which were produced in the millions. This means replacement coils start as low as $14.56 each! Gotta love domestics for costs. One online seller has eight different brands and prices to choose from, all the way up to $41 for the big dollar AC/Delco brand. So we will get a new coil pack and start swapping it out on a warm motor until the miss goes away. We talked about relocating the coils away from atop the engine, where they get heat soaked, but that would likely require longer spark plug wires... so we will table that plan for now.

                        The cornering felt fine, once you got around the axle hop. We could keep up and even catch many cars in its current form. It would even keep up with Miatas on the straights, two cylinders down. It has potential.

                        ECR Toy Run Picture Gallery:

                        Our $30 brake ducting mod also worked like a CHARM, and even with the cheap brake pads up front we never experienced any brake fade. We weren't super hard on the brakes, due to the potential axle hop, but we saw some .8-.9g stops so they were doing some work. Also, these were only 20 minute sessions with cool temperatures, but many of them were taken back-to-back with driver and session "color" changes (we ran this car in Blue, Yellow and Red run groups).

                        Cheap, OEM replacement rear shocks are now on the short list of future mods. You can jounce the rear and get 5+ cycles, so yeah, we kinda knew they were bad - maybe we were just trying to be too frugal. We need to do at least one more shake-down HPDE test event with the new coils, working rear shocks, and a couple of other tweaks before we get too excited about the performance. We had an AIM Solo in the car for most of the day and saw lap times in the 2:25-2:30 range. That's kinda... slow. We were hoping for 2:15s, but with three year old crusty Toyos, no rear shocks, and an engine missing two cylinders, that was about right. With fresh 200 treadwear tires, no axle hop, and the engine firing on all six we think it will be there, or close enough.

                        At the end of the ECR event, Paul, Jason and I we were all fairly positive and upbeat about the Firebird. Our friend Ed is a 4th gen aficionado, but doesn't care too much for CrapCan racing or the SCCA either, so he had fun poking jabs at our expense during the day (he was still a big help with the BRZ and both Mustangs). One thing he did was come up with was a fitting name for the car... "F-Tird.... and the F is silent". It did run pretty much turd-like, so we'll see if this sticks.

                        More Work Planned, Getting Settled In

                        Last weekend I had this Firebird and four other cars hammed into my home garage, which is really only made for four total. It was automotive Tetris getting them all in there, even with a lift. The garage floor was also covered in Firebird "fluids" from recent work we did there, and it was just a big nasty mess. The guys at the Vorshlag had also dumped off all of the ChumpCar parts stored at the shop (loaded my truck bed FULL, two trips), as we're going to do the next few rounds of Firebird work at my house. We needed the room at the shop for inventory and for two customer LS1 swaps we're in the middle of, so I dumped all of this crap in the middle of my garage.

                        I had to get this place cleaned up and reorganized before our NYE party, so I spent Sunday moving all of the cars out, going through boxes of parts (aka: junk) and tossing useless bits into the garbage, and stacking tires and wheels on my home tire rack. I cleaned up the mess on the floor from this car, put spares up on shelves, and got the Firebird up on the lift. I also found a steering wheel we had found for the (now burned up) GRM E30 build, which should work fine on the F-Tird after we find a quick-release hub/adapter. I want to get rid of the big factory steering wheel and cheesy GM tilt column feature, as it is worn and wobbly already. A removable steering wheel will help us get out of the car more easily too.

                        The incorrect throttle pedal assembly is now ready for disassembly and we'll add that to the new punch list. We need to do a little more fender massaging, as we saw a tiny bit of rub with the 275s at the track. The el cheapo AutoGage gauges need to be installed, as well as 100 other little things that need to happen before we bring it back to Vorshlag for the roll cage installation. Remove the air conditioning, gut the doors and remove the side window glass, and of course lots of "adding lightness". Jason has a bee in his bonnet to yank the drivetrain and replace all of the gaskets, but Paul and I have vetoed this unneeded work, as the car seemed to be leak free at the track - shockingly.

                        This weekend we have another work day planned and I will post up again after we have the next chunk of work done. Here's the upcoming Texas CrapCan endurance events for 2013.


                        2013 ChumpCar World Series - TEXAS EVENTS
                        • March 16-17, Hallet Motor Circuit, D-7 (well, it is close to Dallas)
                        • June 22-23, TWS, D-7
                        • Sept 14-15, TMS, D-7
                        • Dec 14, Texas "Special Track TBA", D-7

                        So no Eagles Canyon or Harris Hill events for Chump in 2013. That really sucks - ECR is the track I know best. The "special track" for December... could be Harris Hill, TWS, or who knows - maybe COTA, heh.


                        2013 24 Hours de LeMons - TEXAS EVENTS
                        • May 4-5, Eagles Canyon Raceway
                        • Sept 28-29, MSR-Houston

                        Our interest in running with this group is nearly zero, however.

                        If we want to make the Hallet race, then we better get our sh!t together. Only three months away...
                        Terry Fair -
                        2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
                        EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev


                        • #13
                          Re: Vorshlag ChumpCar '98 Firebird V6 Project

                          Project Update for February 26, 2013: Since my last update, several short work days were put in on the ChumpCar at my house over the past two months. Let's get caught up.

                          Aero Picture Examples

                          While I was looking for a picture from the 2008 GRM "Ultimate Track Car" event, I stumbled upon some good pictures for aero ideas on the F-Tird. With over 50K pictures uploaded, it is easy to forget some cars and pictures I've taken. I posted them in this Corner-Carvers thread about Heat Extractor Hoods, too:

                          This car was built with a lot of driver set-back (hence the floor mounted pedal cluster and extra long steering column shaft), which we will not even attempt to do. Too complicated to pull off on a "$500" car and driver changes would be much more difficult. Check out the front structure though - it allows for a forward radiator location. This car was unfinished and didn't have the ducted hood or the airdam, but you get the idea. The splitter was made of wood and what looked like aluminum tubing - likely what we'd use on the ChumpCar.

                          The AI car above is a more complete '98-02 Firebird with similar front aero, minus the ducted hood. We saw this car at the January 19-20th NASA MSR-Houston event.

                          Of course any major front aero mods are down the road, but I think it will really help cooling on our car as well as give us a little more front end grip. Don't know if we can pull it off under ChumpCar budgets and scrutiny, but it is on the wish list. And I wanted to point out now that every picture in this post can be clicked for an Extra Large resolution version. I make them "small" sized to fit within the confines of some forum layouts, but I hate not sharing them in larger sizes. I'll try to do this more often - just takes more time to write the posts to work that way. Oh, the links and many other features I use almost never works on my posts to SCCAForums - their forum software is just borked. Trying to work with them on the move to a new forum software.

                          Air Conditioning & Side Glass Removal

                          In early January we met and worked on removing the side glass from the doors and yanking the air conditioning components under the hood. Over the holidays my wife bought me a toolbox for the house garage (dedicated set of tools for the Vorshlag shop, the Vorshlag trailer and now the house) and I picked up a number of hand and air tools for use on the ChumpCar and anything else I might need to wrench on at home.

                          We needed the side glass out of this Firebird for cage installation as well as safety requirements for ChumpCar (only glass allowed is an OEM style windshield). The side windows were a bit tricky to remove and required drilling some rivets, removing all sorts of tracks and rollers, but eventually they came out. We removed the window crank mechanisms as well.

                          While the windows were coming out, we found out why the driver's side mirror was flopping around (we had to tape it in place at the ECR test event). Some joker had removed most of the hardware for the metal bracket that bolts to the door structure and the mirror. I put it back together and the mirror is secure once again. If anyone with a 4th Gen needs side glass or a manual regulator, let me know. Of course I won't ship this stuff, but I will bring it to the shop and you can come pick it up for free.

                          The A/C removal was pretty labor intensive. The front mounted condenser and lines came out easily enough, but the compressor was a bitch.

                          With the condenser, drier, and main lines out of the way, Paul and I attacked the compressor. That thing fought us for over an hour and a half... tried taking the bracket off, but the compressor would get stuck in the way. We finally put it all back together and got the compressor out of the way first, then the bracket. A $9 "A/C delete" bracket and pulley went back in place of the compressor and the original serpentine belt was re-used and everything has lots of belt wrap. Altogether... "some pounds" were removed (I don't have an accurate scale at my house).

                          Gas Pedal and Door Gutting

                          McCall spent an hour laying with his head under the dash and managed to get the foot pedal from the throttle pedal assembly swapped from this random GM unit that didn't fit this chassis (he tried to install it at ECR) swapped over onto the 4th Gen V6 pedal arm. Now it works. I don't know what he did... "magic".

                          Removing the "guts" from the massive 4th Gen doors proved easier than I had thought. After trying an electric Sawsall, a little reciprocating air saw, then an electric jig saw - the jig saw proved to be the right tool to remove the fiberglass composite door structures. and it ate that stuff up quickly.

                          I figured it would be hours of work removing the structure, but it was minutes. This cutting made some VERY nasty dust, so if you do this work use safety glasses and a respirator! We rolled the car outside on a windy day and tied a T-shirt around my face, which was unsafe but what we had. Then vacuumed white fiberglass dust out of the WHOLE interior. The real work came in removing the reinforcement beam that is bolted inside the door. I thought this would take seconds but it took nearly an hour.

                          After spending an inordinate amount of time unbolting the bar from the steel brackets at both the front and back of each side door (see below), and that took a LONG time (the access for a ratchet/socket is TERRIBLE), the now unbolted, heavy tubular bar... was stuck. Really stuck. We got so frustrated Paul starting cutting the bar in half. About 3/4 of the way thru the cut, the damn bar just fall out of the door.

                          It was the weirdest thing. So on the second door beam we spent a little more time wiggling it this way and that, then grabbed a hammer, and popped it out of the brackets. This door beam is very thick walled and HEAVY. this beam is being replaced with a proper roll cage, so it was redundant.

                          If the door skin wasn't on it would be a lot easier, but that is plastic and bonded onto the fiberglass door structure. The only metal in the door is the beam (removed) and the front and rear plates that are shown above. The hinges bolt to the front plate and the latches bolt to the rear plate, so they are staying in place. There are little stubs of brackets that held the beam in there, but cutting those out would take a long time for very small returns (1 or maybe 2 pounds total).

                          I used a 3" sanding disc on a 90° air die grinder to dress the cut edges of the fiberglass and made it nice, straight and smooth. And made a whole new mess of fiberglass dust. That we once again vacuumed out of the ENTIRE car. Good grief what a mess. I cut around the formed inset edge of the door and left some structure in the front corner to hold the metal bracket that the sideview mirrors bolt to. Otherwise it all came out.

                          Forgot to mention the inside door handle - that had to come out, naturally. It was held in place with a slide in bracket and one rivet, which I drilled the head off of. Then before I cut the door structure away I lined up the two oddly shaped holes the door handle pull slid into and marked it on the "upper structure" of the door that I left in place. I will go back and cut out these marked holes and slide the handle in there, then thru-bolt it in place (with a sheet metal backing) and re-hook the door latch pull rod and see if it works. I left the upper structure in the door, as it was multi-layer "trussed" fiberglass. It is lightweight and gives the door plenty of structure, for easy opening and closing. Even with all of the parts and beams removed, cut out and unbolted, the door opens and closes better than ever now.

                          Paul and I also removed the weather stripping and associated brackets from the side doors, then vacuumed up all of the dust once again. Then I cleaned up all of the mold and gunk under those things, and it looks tidy now.

                          We started removing a bunch of unnecessary brackets from the interior but ran out of time. A Blair spot weld cutter and a gentle touch with the drill took the spot welds out of the first bracket and it popped right out. The key is getting the right "feel" for when you cut through the outer layer (the bracket) and not cutting through the under layer (the floorpan); I only missed that once, on my very first spot weld. A lighter cordless drill would have helped. About 7 more brackets and we be done enough to get the cage installed.

                          Coil Pack Replacement & Cage Planning

                          At the ECR event we had what felt like a dying coil or coils, and while we started the day on 6 cylinders we ended it on what felt like 4. We already had brand new plug wires and spark plugs, and none of them were loose or arcing when we checked at the track, so it had to be the coils, right? Ignition based missed that worsened with heat. After we towed the car back to my place and it had cooled down for an hour, it fired right up and ran on all 6.

                          Like I said in my last post, new coils were a whopping $14.XX each, so we got 3. During one of the work days over the past 2 months we yanked the coilpack out and unbolted one coil, came right off. Now that the replacements came in we went to pull the other 2 and... no luck. One bolt snapped off into the aluminum heat sink base and the head of another rounded off. Little bitty 5.5mm hex heads with the bottom of the bolts exposed to engine heat and rain. Yuck.

                          We brought the coilpack back to the Vorshlag shop and I'll drill out the busted bolt and cut the head off the other then get it back in the car. But... we might relocate this away from the OEM location, right above the left exhaust manifold, and move it to a better spot. It will be 10-12 wires to extend, and likely custom length plug wires, but I think it will be worth it.

                          Left: A Mustang cage with fairly low NASCAR door bars. Right: Our car with some tape mock-ups (all wrong)

                          During the same day we cut the door structures out I also played with some masking tape and lined up some door bar locations. There is not a lot of room vertically and placing the FIA bar up front is going to be a compromise. We are using 2 horizintal "NASCAR" bars that will go all the way into the doors and touch the outer skins, for lots of lateral room.

                          Left: BlaineFab door bars on a CMC Firebird. Right: Mike Patterson's AI Camaro.

                          The door bars we make will be some combination of the above four examples: two main horizontal NASCAR bars, some rear triangulation to the main hoop and side roof bars, and additional front "roof crush" strength added with an "FIA bar" - but all of this with enough room to get all of our drivers in and out of the door opening quickly. Since this is a 4th Gen F-body, we ordered the hard parts from the 4th Gen cage master, Alan Blaine. The main hoop and down bars are coming from soon - he sells these in 1.75 x .120 wall DOM for $550, so if you want a pre-cut cage kit for your 4th Gen, give him a shout. Our cage will look as much like these from him that we can make them.

                          Wrapped Up Until Cage Install

                          Feels good to get to this point - the car is finally ready for the cage. Once the main hoop and side down bars arrive, we'll put the coil pack back in, fire it up, load it onto a trailer, and bring the car back to Vorshlag. Once here, our fabricator Ryan will cut the dash bars and rear down bars, as well as the door bars. We will tack-up most of the cage and then put our drivers in the car and see where we can put the FIA and door bars to fit everyone. We need to get rid of the rear hatch glass for safety reasons, but we have some ideas for a cheap replacement.

                          More soon,
                          Terry Fair -
                          2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
                          EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev


                          • #14
                            Re: Vorshlag ChumpCar '98 Firebird V6 Project

                            Project Update for Dec 21, 2013: Today, the Winter Solstice and shortest day of the year, I am writing my shortest project update of late - this time on the joint Chumpcar Firebird build started about a year and a half ago. You may have noticed the large gap (10 months) since my last update on this project. Well, that's because I stepped away from this train wreck about 8 or 9 months ago, heh! I tried to get out of the 3-man partnership of McCall, Magyar and myself many times since then, but they won't buy me out, so I guess I'm stuck in this mess. The car was moved out of my garage about 8 months ago, which was nice, and I have not lifted a finger since to work on it. I will explain below, as well as share some pictures of the cage work progress (that these two guys haven't seen yet) that happened in the past week, done at another shop.

                            See, for a long time I was frustrated with the progress and pace of work on this build. When the all volunteer group worked on the GRM Challenge E30 LSx swap in my home garage back in 2009-10, we attacked this project one night every week and often again on weekends I wasn't racing something else. It still took the better part of a year to complete - with about 14 people working on it - and another year of tuning and finish work, to turn that heap of crap into a GRM winner. These two guys worked on that same build and showed up on our weekly work nights more often than not, so I was hoping we could maintain that work pace.

                            Magyar (at left) and McCall (at right) were part of the hard working hustle that made the $2011 GRM Challenge winner happen!

                            Things changed a lot since the GRM Challenge days. McCall now has 2 kids and Magyar has his own new distractions (too many non-car hobbies being one of them), and work on the Chumpcar just wasn't happening. After too many failed attempts at weekly (then monthly) work nights, being held at the same garage (less than 6 miles from each of their homes), and more than a few nights that were set-up then became total no-shows, I threw my hands up and said, "Come get this PoS!" They didn't believe me at first but after a while they finally came and got it, and that precious garage space was mine once again. This $500 crapcan was just gathering cob webs in my garage for months while one of my own street cars was being parked outside in the elements. Funk that.

                            My 1000 sq ft garage was jam packed, and some of my nicer street cars were stuck outside - to make room for a car never worked on

                            Even when the car left I still had a garage full of parts gathered for this Chumpcar project, most of which I stealthily delivered into one of the two remaining team members' garage one night when he was out of town (reverse theft!). I still have two sets of wheels/tires, a hood, and several boxes of spare parts and a new set of gauges. I will probably deliver these soon, too.

                            Cage Progress

                            This story isn't new - this same thing happens often on "joint car builds" - one person feels like they are shouldering all of the load and eventually they get fed up. It happens a lot, even among friends that have known each other for 20+ years, like the three of us have. It was putting a strain on our friendships so I bowed out, and none too gracefully, heh.

                            Well, that's how I felt anyway. At the time I had too many other car projects (at Vorshlag) needing my time, attention and money, so I stepped back and let them take over for a bit. I still own a third of this thing, so I'm now a "silent partner" of a sorts. I might even get to drive this car again someday, if by some miracle they get it running and race prepped before gasoline supplies run out on this planet.

                            Left: Magyar's Subaru project is 5 years in, but virtually untouched in the last 2. Right: McCall's Z3 LS1 took 5 years to finish, with lots of outside help

                            Since these two guys can't seem to finish their own car projects in under a decade, they did the smartest thing possible - took the Firebird to a fabricator's shop and dumped it there (oh I'm going to get some grief for that one!). Kurt from Janco Fabrications was the unlucky recipient of this 1999 Firebird, and recently he took the nicely bent Blainefab 4th gen cage kit and started the roll cage installation and other fab work. McCall and Magyar have managed to put in a couple of nights of work on the car in the past 8 months or so. They have: removed the dash, then cut a hole in the front bumper to make it a "mouth breather", and.... that's it. Someday they will need to go back and duct that front bumper hole to the radiator.

                            Kurt's cage fab work is well known, and we have had him bend up a few main hoops and halos on cages we complete here at Vorshlag, as have several other prominent shops here in town. He is very experienced and he is fast. The Blainefab 4th gen cage kit was a nice short cut, as it includes the main bent tubes. Kurt has started to add the diagonals and other bits. He also prepped the chassis for the floor plates/load spreaders. Scraped body seam sealer and removed paint then welded in these steel plates for the main tubes to land on. Since Kurt's personal race car is a 4th gen Firebird (SCCA Solo CP car) he is very familiar with this chassis, and the various cage building rules and specs.

                            The fit of the tubing joints looks great (he has tweaked things here and there, as needed) and the bulk of the roll cage will likely be done in a week or two. After that it still needs a lot of work - fire system (a bottle is no longer adequate due to rules changes, see rule 3.9.1), lots of wiring work (plus a main kill switch), the seat will need to go back in, it needs something to cover up the rear hatch glass that is removed, and the front of the car needs that radiator duct work completed. After that it needs to go back on track for another test before they are ready to go wheel to wheel endurance racing.

                            2014 Chumpcar rules:

                            Chumpcar changed a number of rules for 2014 and they have essentially done away with the "Average Internet Value" or AIV assessment. This does away with doing research and bringing examples of ads on Craigslist or other classifieds to justify the value of your car. Every model eligible for Chump racing now has a Market Performance Values (MVP) now, set by Chumpcar, and this Firebird is valued at $350. Also, every possible race car mod has an assessed Fixed Market Value (see rule, with things like: Non-OE replacement shock absorber or strut is $25/corner, Exhaust Header is $50 per engine set, etc. Combined, this makes for your car's TOTAL COMPETITION VALUE (TCV). Looks like that leaves this team with $150 of value to play with on mods and not face any penalties, but I'm not sure where they will spend that.

                            Last I heard, the Two Ms said they were going to have the car ready for a 2014 Chumpcar event in March at Hallett, but I wouldn't bet on that. I've learned to be extremely pessimistic when it comes to project cars undertaken by these two! They are both coming to Christmas party at my house later tonight and I'm sure I will get an ear full for saying all of this, but its all done out of love. Tough love! If it gets them fired up and motivated to finish this car, then I will consider my prodding in this post to be a victory.

                            If I happen to stop by and see progress on this Chump project at Kurt's shop I will post pics again (I store my trailer out there and see this car more often than these two knuckleheads do). And if it runs... on track... at a crapcan endurance race?! Well, I might just have a heart attack. But I will post up about that, too.

                            Last edited by Fair!; 12-26-2013, 06:07 PM.
                            Terry Fair -
                            2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
                            EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev


                            • #15
                              Re: Vorshlag ChumpCar '98 Firebird V6 Project

                              Quick Follow up, Dec 21, 2013: Well my post got some testy replies from the Two Ms, as expected. They were properly indignant and a little butthurt, and then they shocked and amazed me with pictures of work they did this very day! Here it is...

                              Front Aero Work

                              In the above picture you will notice the ducting work that they have made (with Kurt's supervision or help?) to the new front radiator inlet opening made into the front bumper cover. Modifications had to be made to the bumper support behind the cover as well. This will effectively push a lot of air into the radiator opening, and the plastic sheeting used (literally some scrap they found) will seal the incoming air to the front of the stock radiator. The "bottom feed" ducting was removed and sealed off.

                              Here you will notice the plastic panels cut and affixed in place to cover the large openings left when the pop-up headlight doors and assemblies were removed. These were stolen from a previous owner, but would have been removed in any case - they are heavy and when up cause a lot of aero drag. Covering these holes was important part of cleaning up the front of the car's aero profile. Nicely done...

                              The missing piece of the front breather puzzle is the hole in the hood, to duct air from the engine bay out the top. We planned all of this out long ago (see above image) and they are slowly but surely getting it knocked out. This is an important piece of the endurance car cooling solution, especially when you are stuck with the OEM radiator that Chumpcar requires (or you take a TCV penalty).

                              Not only can this add cooling, but also some front downfroce. If they have any TCV left I hope they spend it on some plywood and make a big nasty front splitter. Like we found on our TT3 prepped 2011 Mustang above, ducting the hood makes a front splitter much more effective at producing downforce, and on a sedan shape you can never have too much front downforce (on our red Mustang we needed more rear wing to balance out the 10" long splitter - if we keep this car it might get the longer chord rear wing it really needs).

                              Good to see some progress from these two, and I'm sure I will hear more tonight at the party. I better start drinking now...
                              Terry Fair -
                              2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
                              EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev