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Who put the camber plate in wrong?
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Who put the camber plate in wrong?
It is a GD plate in a GC chassis. It is actually in right given it is the wrong plate.
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Yea, that's a GD plate, and its temporary... I was wondering who'd catch that first.

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It is a GD plate in a GC chassis. It is actually in right given it is the wrong plate.
We ran out of GC plates and I need to get a new batch machined with the new higher caster set-up. Its in process, and these GD plates work in a GC, in a pinch...
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Project Update for July 16, 2010: I went by Paul's on Wednesday night to help him do some more assembly on the '95 L, and was again joined by local STi racer Henry Lin and Calvin from COBB Tuning. We worked on various stuff for a few hours and got some more work knocked out. It was hot as Hell.


The "big wheels" (18x9.5") went from the '08 to the '95, and they almost kinda sort wanted to fit under the stock '95 fenders

More importantly, Paul actually worked on the project on his own, since we last met. Amazing! He had installed much of the suspension and brakes, and mocked-up his 18x9.5" wheels that used to be on his '08 STI. Seeing his daily driven '08 STI car on the itty-bitty stock wheels was kinda funny.


Ignore the caption some tard put in the picture (me) - that's actually a 275/35/18 Dunlop on an 18x9.5" wheel!

Maybe he really means to sell the '08 after all? I'll believe it when he removes the AST 4200s and puts the stock suspension back on - he can't stand to drive on marshmallow suspension very long. If anyone has a clean GC8 Outback Sport or another affordable, clean Subaru commuter, speak up! He doesn't need a $35K daily driver (that's all too tempting to take and thrash on a road course) with all of his other race cars and trucks.



The fuel line problems noted in my last update were solved by swapping all the "in-cabin" hard fuel lines to the ones from the wrecked '07 STi donor... with a little wiggling they fit the '95 chassis fine, and now all of the '07 flex lines snap into place with ease - the entire fuel system is now '07 STi, from tank to engine. Oh, and Paul installed the AST 4200-RR shocks, too. The Brembo calipers are awaiting installaiton when the new rear rotors arrive.



While Calvin and Henry helped Paul assemble all of the myriad stock parts to the fully built 2.5L long block, I stayed under the car and installed the driveshaft, rear diff cover, and the shifter (mostly). I hadn't ever worked on any of these bits on a Subaru and I was amazed at their heavy kludgeishness. Subaru!



Paul had already finished up the final install of the '07 dash, steering column, and had a new windshield put in earlier that week. And took no pictures of how he made the small adapter brackets, the douche! His UltraShield Rally Pro seat and slider (formerly in his '08 STi) bolted in place in the '95 with zero effort - took me 5 minutes. The '95 Impreza door panels don't match the '07 dash, so the side doors haven't been closed in a while. That was bugging me to no end (leave the doors open on a car for 9 months around an OCD person??). So at the end of the evening we all took the time to install one of the 2.5 RS door cards, and they fit beautifully - and allow the doors to close, finally!



We need to address the fenders soon, as they won't clear the 275mm tires without some serious persuasion... of the plasma and hammer variety. Also, a lot of items have been checked off of Paul's Project Whiteboard. McCall better catch up (there's a bet to see who can finish their project car first) as Paul is quickly catching and passing in his project's progress!

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Update for July 16, 2010: I went by Paul's on Wednesday night to help him do some more assembly on the '95 L, and was joined by local STi racer Henry Lin and Calvin from COBB Tuning. We worked on various stuff for a few hours and got some more work knocked out.

[So a lot of items have been checked off of Paul's Project Whiteboard. McCall better catch up (there's a bet to see who can finish their project car first) as Paul is quickly catching and passing in his project's progress!
Well if I can get 3 guys to come over to help with my hooptie we might actually be able to fire the motor with a few solid hours of work. Where's the calvary?!?
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Well if I can get 3 guys to come over to help with my hooptie we might actually be able to fire the motor with a few solid hours of work. Where's the calvary?!?
Send out the invite for next week in your project thread - I'll pencil it in, for sure.
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Project Update for August 25, 2010: I stopped by Paul's last Sunday to grab some fire sleeve from him for our $2010 GRM E30 V8 project, and while there I took a few pics of the latest progress on his '07 STi drivetrain swap into his '95 FWD 2-door Impreza. One of these days the motor might go in and the rest of the suspension and brakes might go on!

First off, the rear brake rotors are on. Well, one corner. Paul bought "the cheapest rotors money could buy" for the back, just to get the damn thing rolling and to help move things forward. Sure, there's probably some super secret JDM rotor that is .02 pounds lighter, or made from Unobtanium, but "why slow down to get every silly whiz-bang part?" I keep asking him? "Get it running and fine tune this little stuff later!" I remind him weekly.



Paul found some longer ARP wheel studs ($7+ each) and replaced the stock length wheel studs, along with Vorshlag M12-1.25 lug nuts. He had to re-machine the heads slightly on the rear studs to allow for installaiton in the rear without removing the rear wheel bearings. There's a wheel speed sensor hole in the rear brake backing plate that is just a hair too small, but with a .015" removed from the OD of the head of the stud, it slides thru. He machined 10 of them using our lathe in about an hour. Removing a sensor ring from the drive flange allows the old studs to be pushed (hammered) out and the new, long ARP studs to go in. The front didn't take this amount of work, luckily, but he hadn't gotten to that yet.



The shifter was still half-installed from last month, so Paul could hunt down some "missing" parts. That he purchased, and when he went to go put them on they were attached... to the shifter. That I had installed... Hey, I didn't know what that crap looks like, don't blame me! That's what they get for having 3 Subaru guys standing around eating pizza while the non-Subaru guy did all the work under the car to install the shifter. Sheesh.

The fancy competition type transmission mount assembly he bought from Japan for 58 million yen (or something) was sitting on the workbench, so I snapped a pic of that. The stock type Subaru trans and motor mounts are a HIDEOUS JOKE, with large amounts of foamy rubber that has the stiffness of a Stay Puff Marshmallow, so these are a huge step up. It's made me look more closely at making Subaru driveline mounts - the choices are extremely limited (with "harder rubber" versions being the commonly used but still terrible option). I dunno... if it ain't pink or JDM, the Subaru market doesn't rate it very high.



Those are... uhhh... Subaru motor pictures. Paul has been chasing down some hard to find doo-dads for weeks and months, some of which are especially expensive aftermarket parts that are now out of production, which will replace some poorly designed factory piece for the US market cars. Most of it, to me, looks like simple fabricated tubing or whatnot. But apparently these rare JDM parts are the hotness, and help the 2.5L boosted engines make more horsepowers.



Above are more of the same... at left is the US Market "turbulence generators" or flux capacitors or whatever its called. Its not individual throttle bodies, its a way to add turbulence/swirl to the intake port that supposedly helps with exhaust emissions. At right are some "JDM" Subaru parts without the added turbulence generating extra throttle blades, which are hard to get and supposedly add power. Looks like the same parts with the throttles/shafts removed to me, but what do I know?

All I know is that finding these rare gems and JDM pieces is slowing down this build immensely. But with our E30 V8 swap creeping into week 40+, and with the pace never slowing down much below 4 nights a week, I can't throw stones from my glass house.

JDM, YO!

Keep at it, Paul.

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Project Update for Oct 24, 2010: Wow, yea.... long time no update. We kinda got buried under the $2010 GRM Project E30 V8, my e46 BMW DSP disaster, the SCCA Solo Nationals and the GRM $2010 event for the past 6 weeks. I managed to get over to Paul's on the 24th and we got a lot of little stuff done - mostly installing new parts he'd received since my last visit. Paul did so some work during that time period... installed a mixture of 2.5 RS and STi and '95 Impreza brake lines in the engine bay are perfectly routed and buttoned up. He also got the steering column in and installed a few other odds and ends.

First thing we tackled: the motor got its new exhaust crossover tube (some fancy aftermarket piece) but its still got the stock up-pipe, exhaust manifolds and turbo. Which is odd to me - wouldn't you want larger diameter headers, up-piping, etc? Or at least ported cast manifolds? Apparently Paul has those upgrades in mind when he adds a larger turbo unit - but for now he wants to just "get it going". Which is what I've been saying for the last year, so I can't complain.



So we got everything we had on hand to add to the motor bolted on and were about to lock down the turbo when Paul noticed we were missing one piece of oil tubing for the turbo, so he's going to order that. Good grief. I'll come back next weekend and we can get that wrapped up and get the motor IN THE CAR, hopefully? Maybe? After we ran out of motor work we jumped into the suspension.



I spent about an hour under the back of the car and with Paul working topside we got the right rear halfshaft installed, the right rear upright bolted to that strut, E-brake cables routed, the ABS wiring routed, and everything in the rear buttoned up. It was still missing the main spring on the left rear but damn it I wanted to see the car on the ground, and with time running out we slapped on all of the wheels (including a temp spare on the right rear) and dropped the car down onto the wheels for the first time in over a YEAR. Sure, one corner was supported by a floor jack... but it almost rolled.



Costas and I had actually dropped by late the Saturday before and temporarily installed the new DEPO headlights/corner lights, the hood, and one of the new Certifit fenders Paul had rounded up and we snapped these iPhone pics, too.



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Project Update for Oct 30, 2010: Another Saturday spent on Paul M's '95 Impreza and we made more progress, but still no motor in the car. I know, I know... that's all I cared about tackling, but Paul had some worries about something and wanted one of the COBB guys around to make sure we didn't put it in the car without forgetting anything. So with the motor plans dead in the water we jumped into other aspects that still needed to be locked down. We started by swapping the entire doors... ???



Paul M here had traded Jason M the car's original roll up window '95 Impreza doors (~72 lbs) with a pair of '99 RS doors (~75 lbs/each) that had electric windows. The reason for the swap? Well Paul had already scored a complete set of RS inner door panels + RS interior rear panels, but they never came with roll up windows and he didn't want to cut a hole for the crank... or something like that? I didn't understand, but he wanted electric window RS doors and it was an even money swap so he's happy. It didn't take us 45 minutes to swap and align both doors, and they were in better shape than the old ones, so I won't complain further (3 pounds per door is not much for electric windows, I guess). I bolted in the seat/bracket again, too. Paul took pics of the doors with his camera including the scale, and I'll post them up shortly. Maneuvering these doors was some work - they were freagin HEAVY!

We also got the spring on the right rear strut, then got the car on the ground FOR REAL and actually ROLLED it back and forth a foot. On the tires. Really! First time the car actually rolled in over a year. Woo!

We played with ride heights and got the car down to where we think it should be, and leveled the front side to side. Didn't really get a picture of this, but no matter - it didn't stay that way for long.



So the two pictures above show the 18x9.5" wheels and 275s don't fit the rear (nor the front), and Paul had worked during the August/September time frame on "clearancing" the rear left fender to "fit" them. He spent lots of hours and learned some new body work/metal forming skills from a friend, and had a sort of bell shaped lip added to that fender (see the top left pic in this post). He had to cut the outer sheetmetal away from the inner, and had moved it outboard about 1-1.5". It was barely enough clearance once the car was at ride height - but the tire was smashing into the sheet metal once you added some bump travel. No bueno.

Paul thought he could work it even more but the metal was already so "worked" it was starting to get brittle. So he was going to plop down $4500 on some composite "wide body" composite panel garbage. Oh hell no. Next he talked about getting some cheap RaceonUSA 240SX bolt-on flares (blah). That would have taken a bunch of work to fit this car. I had a better idea... metal flares!



I popped back to the shop and brought back several fenders and fender flare sections to Paul's garage. Some of you will know what these are, as they are good metal candidates for flaring I've used in the past (E46 BMW fenders). Oh baby, did they ever look at home on this Subaru!



This was a major "eureka!" moment for the project. The decisions about tire clearancing were solved and its a cheap solution (if somewhat fab-intensive - assume 40 hours of work to do flares right). We checked the SMod rules and we can clearance the inner sheet metal from the axle mounting face outwards, so we made a mark in the inner wheelhouse section showing this line, then Paul started cutting away interfering metal from there outwards. We bolted the tires on both ends and put it back at ride height.



That's the before and after. The bare metal pic with the re-worked fender looks like it might work, but it lacks clearance for upward travel of the tire. It would only ever work for the hard-parking crowd. With the grafted on metal flares we are allowing the suspension to compress into the bump stop and still have tire clearance. This will also allow for a relatively narrow track width and narrower tire/wheel for autocrossing (18x9.5" and 275mm) as well as a wider track width and wheel/tire for track use (295 or more on an 18x10"), better suiting this dual-purpose race car to these two extremes.

Next up: I'm still pushing to get the damn motor in the car! But somehow a threaded, blind hole in the block for the knock sensor is stripped, so Paul is on the search fort a helicoil kit. Then it goes to COBB Tuning Plano for some electronics wizardry and tuning. "It will run before the end of the year", says Paul. Ha! We'll see...

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