Go Back   Vorshlag Motorsports Forum > Vorshlag Motorsports Discussions > Vorshlag Project Cars

Reply
Thread Tools
  #11  
Unread 01-20-2010, 10:45 PM
Fair!'s Avatar
Fair! Fair! is offline
I blame the internet
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,998
Default Re: Paul Magyar's 1995 Subaru Impreza L - Street Mod/Track build

Update for Jan 20, 2010: Paul and I did some engine bay painting last night, using a POR-15 brand product. It was recommended to use a specific multi-step cleaning process (that sucked) and foam brush to apply the product on in 2 coats (the brushes REALLY sucked). This was a huge frakking mess, and the cleaning supplies they sold Paul really didn't cut it. Brake Parts Cleaner to the rescue!



After a partial first coat was showing massive fish-eyes from oil still on the surface, this still tacky coat was removed via brake cleaner. Next, all of the engine bay sheet metal was really de-greased with brake cleaner. Then we applied a fresh coat of white, waited 2 hours, and applied the other. Looks pretty good, for a brushed on finish (some drips & runs), but its not as nice as it should have been for all the work that went into prepping this engine bay. There are still a few areas I would have cleaned and prepped better, but you don't really see those once the parts are back in. Paul was happy with it; I was indifferent. If you go to a POR-15 coating, PREP THE METAL PROPERLY. All surfaces should be thoroughly degreased with the proper solvents.



In hindsight... probably should have gone the extra effort and sprayed the engine bay with a proper 2-part urethane automotive paint finish. I won't be recommending this brush-on POR-15 crap to anyone, personally. Short cutting the proper preparation process always ends up with compromises.



Next up: painting the front inner fender structures. Paul has spent some quality time with "The Crudbuster", a whirling dervish of a power tool with nasty metal brushes, and removed "20 years of crud" from the underside of the front fender sheetmetal. Let's vote for "spraying" on some product this time, please? And the AST shocks are finally about to be ordered.

I cannot wait to see this thing back on 4 wheels...

Last edited by Fair!; 12-15-2010 at 05:22 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Unread 01-21-2010, 08:35 AM
modernbeat modernbeat is offline
Jason McDaniel - Admin
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 91
Default Re: Paul Magyar's 1993 Subaru Impreza L - Street Mod/Track build

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fair! View Post
Let's vote for "spraying" on some product this time.
New flavor of the day for painting wheelwells and other high abrasion or rock-chip prone areas is Macropoxy.

http://protective.sherwin-williams.c...3Aproduct-6842

There's a thread on RallyAnarchy and/or Special Stage showing it's application with brushes and rollers. Apparently spraying it takes special equipment.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Unread 02-01-2010, 10:08 PM
Fair!'s Avatar
Fair! Fair! is offline
I blame the internet
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,998
Default Re: Paul Magyar's 1995 Subaru Impreza L - Street Mod/Track build

Update for Jan 26, 2010: Went by to work on Paul's car after earlier taking some measurement's on McCall's Z3 LS1 project. Paul didn't have many parts to install onto the '93 that night, so I took the chance to document a little of the work he'd done earlier that week. The engine bay brake lines, ABS hydraulic unit, and some other bits from the '07 STi bolted right into the '93... gotta love a long lived chassis with tons of carryover! There's a couple of holes to drill, and a few broken plastic retainer clips he needs to replace, but for the most part everything bolted right up. Even the '07 brake booster is going to fit. The pedal assembly? Not so much. More on that in another installment.



We also mocked up the '07 HVAC under-dash modules. The center section contains the heater core and evap core, so we removed the evap core (this car won't have air con, but it will have a heater and defroster), which came out cleanly. A small block-off plate from sheet aluminum will cover the hole in the HVAC box that the evap core's intake/exhaust lines left behind. We then realized we needed to drill new holes in the firewall for the 2 heater lines, so Paul was tasked with rounding up some hole saws and unibits, which he has since acquired.

Later this same week Paul started to reinstall the engine bay harness (the '93 cbody harness and the '07 engine harness). He also had a windshield guy come by and remove the front windshield, cleanly and intact (he could have re-installed the old, uncracked stock windshield, but a new one will only be a few bucks more, and new windshields always look clearer than 18 year old stock units). Having that out of the car gives us ample access to be able to fit the '07 STi dash into the '95 unImpreza. The '07 unit is longer and has to be trimmed ever so slightly at the lower edge of the windshield to line up. He's also sourcing some 2 door Impreza 2.5 RS door panels, which better line up to the '07 dash contours.

Fitting the newer STi dash bar, HVAC modules, wiring harness/ECM, dash/gauges and making the new and old interior bits fit together is the trickiest part of this swap, but it will look factory when finished - if done right. The drivetrain and brake system swaps are themselves fairly straightforward and mostly "bolt-in" affairs. There's probably 25-30+ dash mock-ups/mod steps in our future. Entire companies exist to create these types of new-into-old Subaru drivetrain, wiring and interior swaps.

More soon...

Last edited by Fair!; 12-15-2010 at 05:24 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Unread 02-02-2010, 10:22 AM
Paul's Avatar
Paul Paul is offline
Mega Poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: McKinney, TX
Posts: 1,704
Default Re: Paul Magyar's 1995 Subaru Impreza L - Street Mod/Track build

Project update for Feb 2, 2010: Paul took a quick picture of some work he did on the dash.

Quote:
Here is a picture of everything mocked up except the dash bar. The heater box/blower motor unit and dash were easier to install than I originally thought. I have figured out how to install the dash bar correctly thanks to a thread on rs25.com.


'07 STi dash in '95 Impreza - mock-up
Of course the dash bar was more difficult to install than he originally thought. We ended up modifying the brackets a bit and got it to bolt in. I think we show that in a later post.
__________________
'11 Mustang GT / '95 Frankenpreza

"A turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster."
- Dr. Clarkson

Last edited by Fair!; 12-16-2010 at 10:23 AM. Reason: resized/cleaned up picture
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Unread 02-02-2010, 02:06 PM
Miatamoto Miatamoto is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 43
Default Re: Paul Magyar's 1993 Subaru Impreza L - Street Mod/Track build

Looks great Paul!
__________________
Thomas
AST '04 S2000 (STR)
'04 R32 with AST 4100s
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Unread 02-12-2010, 06:00 PM
Fair!'s Avatar
Fair! Fair! is offline
I blame the internet
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,998
Default Re: Paul Magyar's 1995 Subaru Impreza L - Street Mod/Track build

Quick update for Feb 12, 2010: Just a few updates here. Paul has been rounding up parts in a bit of a February Frenzy. Here's some of the things he has nabbed in the past 2 weeks:


  • JDM market aluminum GC chassis hood. 22.4 pounds (see above)
  • Some used stock '06 STi struts for temporary use - so we can get the car rolling before the custom AST4200RRs arrive.
  • Used, complete gauge cluster/body/engine/fuel tank wiring harness from an '05 STi. The '04 harness he got previously was missing one sub-harness (that he later found - having a clean garage and accurate labeling is crucial!)
  • Used '05 STi pedal box assembly
  • Used '05 STi dash bar brackets
  • Used '05 STi Brembo brake calipers/brackets for front and rear

We also dropped off the longblock and other engine parts at WattsShop - a local engine builder experienced with complete Subaru engine builds.

Once the new main wiring harness arrives we can start to put that in, then the HVAC, dash, and interior. Then the fuel tank, rear subframe, and all of the (temporary/stock) suspension can go back in. Then brakes, wheels/tires, and it should roll. After it rolls around here, the car heads to COBB for some wiring/splicing/programming magic and tuning work.

At least that The Plan.

More soon,

Last edited by Fair!; 12-16-2010 at 10:27 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Unread 02-18-2010, 10:56 AM
Fair!'s Avatar
Fair! Fair! is offline
I blame the internet
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,998
Default Re: Paul Magyar's 1995 Subaru Impreza L - Street Mod/Track build

Project Update for Feb 17, 2010: Went to work on Paul's car last night. Somehow he had convinced Calvin from COBB to stop by and help. Glad he was there, as Calvin knows Subarus better than Paul or I ever will. The first thing I noticed when I showed up was the JDM market STi front bumper cover was installed. The car is a lot better looking already.



The biggest accomplishment of the night was the fuel tank. The '95 tank didn't have provisions for the rear wheel drive axle, so the '07 tank was needed. But the '95 had chassis several missing or different items that the '07 tank would normally connect to. Paul, Calvin and I spent most of the evening re-routing, modifying, and tweaking these differences - luckily Paul had all of the '07 fuel and vent lines. While under the car pounds of dried mud fell into my face, hair and eyes - brotha needs to do some cleaning under this car!

We found and/or made hoses for all of the different ports on the '07 tank and made it all work (well... we'll know for sure when its fired up). Calvin was pretty certain we took care of everything properly, and he's done some funky Subaru swaps. We mounted the tank, fuel filler lines, fuel feed/return/vent lines, and most importantly - installed the rear wiring harness above the tank from the '04 harness (by this time the missing '04 harness bits were found). This harness had to be routed above the tank, so the tank had been waiting to go in for weeks until the new harness was sourced/found. The tank is all buttoned up and awaiting the rear subframe install next...



The Mishimoto aluminum radiator went in place, and fit beautifully. The new '07 STi rear subframe shown below was to be installed next, followed by a bunch of other rear suspension parts, but Paul somehow lost the subframe mounting bolts... both sets. The ones from the '95 and the ones from the '07 were both missing. We spent a good 30 minutes tearing apart his garage looking for those 4 bolts, to no avail. Messy is inefficient.



Oh well, until next time.

Last edited by Fair!; 12-16-2010 at 10:32 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Unread 04-08-2010, 01:03 PM
Fair!'s Avatar
Fair! Fair! is offline
I blame the internet
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,998
Default Re: Paul Magyar's 1995 Subaru Impreza L - Street Mod/Track build

Project Update for April 8, 2010: Paul is in Japan all week on vacation, but we did some suspension work on his car 2 weeks ago and I am finally getting around to the update.



We spent some time here at the shop using the press to push out the old rubber bushings from the front and rear control arms and spindles, then pressing in new Whiteline poly bushings and ball joints. This was a chore - we spent a good 90 minutes on these, at least. Some of the rubber bushings had to be drilled/cut out, because they were stuck in the arms/steel sleeves.



He brought dirty parts into my shop. My OCD started to kick in and I got a twitch... so I had to take his crusty control arms and clean them up. They shine like new now.



Once the arms were done we went back to his garage and tinkered with the dash some more. McCall joined us and we redrilled the flanges for the '07 dash bar, made some templates for some other dash brackets we need, etc. The steering column now fits, the harness is in, and its close to being wrapped up inside. Paul even found some nice 2 door, black "2.5 RS" door interior door panels to swap in, which look better than the old '95 panels and fit better with the '07 dash in place (the doors won't close with the '95 door panels and '07 dash in place - there's a raised area on those door panels where the new dash now sits).



After a lot of pushing and pulling we managed to get the '04 STi main harness to fit through the various firewall openings in the '95 L. It looks almost factory, even though the firewall openings are significantly different between the early '90s and late '00s Imprezas. Out back, right now there's a halfshaft that's stuck inside the R180 rear differential (the '07 STI it came from side-swiped a curb, so that halfshaft is fubar) so that needs some attention at from Calvin at COBB to remove.



The interior work is crucial to making all of this fit and function and look right, its just not very glamorous work to look at here (sorry). Oh well, the project is progressing along nicely - very close to drivetrain installaiton time (in retrospect - not so much!). The motor (built at WattsShop) is supposedly done, so that's going to go in soon. And the AST 4200RRs are due to arrive in the next month or so. Paul has some bolt-on flares he has found that we could use (temporarily) to cover the 275/35/18 tires and 18x9.5" wheels, but I am not so sure.

More soon,

Last edited by Fair!; 12-16-2010 at 10:41 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Unread 06-21-2010, 04:54 PM
Fair!'s Avatar
Fair! Fair! is offline
I blame the internet
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,998
Default Re: Paul Magyar's 1995 Subaru Impreza L - Street Mod/Track build

Project Update for June 21, 2010: Paul has been hacking away at little bits on the Impreza, but progress has been slow (and he's been pitching in on our $2010 Challenge build for most of the summer). I went by last Saturday morning to help him get the R180 rear axle re-installed. He has some other new parts on hand and I snapped some pics:


AST 4200 RR shocks and Vorshlag camber plates (front and rear) were delivered. These go on soon!


Built 2.5L (Wattshop assembled) motor is back. The crazy Moroso oilpan should help with lubrication


Steering column is in and looks good


Left: Paul found a good deal on used STi Brembo calipers. Right: The UltraShield+sliding bracket is ready to bolt in


Left: The axle housing was removed and the damaged halfshaft was pulled @ COBB. Right: Its in its new home now!

There was one rear diff to subframe stud that was buggered up but we fixed it at my shop later that day and Paul installed it and buttoned up the rear axle mounting that afternoon.

More soon,

Last edited by Fair!; 12-16-2010 at 10:45 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Unread 06-28-2010, 07:35 PM
Fair!'s Avatar
Fair! Fair! is offline
I blame the internet
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 5,998
Default Re: Paul Magyar's 1995 Subaru Impreza L - Street Mod/Track build

Project Update for June 28, 2010: I went by Paul's last Wednesday night to help him with some fuel line questions. Paul and another local AST/Vorshlag tester/SCCA racer Henry Lin were about to install the transmission, so I stuck around to help for a bit.





We got the trans in with Henry and me bench pressing it up into position while Paul started the bolts. Then we looked at the fuel lines, trying to get the car's factory lines ('95 Impreza) to line up with the ones on the motor ('04 STi) and the fuel tank ('07 STi). Come to find out Paul managed to get the '04 chassis hard lines to fit the '95 chassis the next day, and all is well.





Paul also stuck a front fender on there, as shown in the first row of pics. Since then he's installed some suspension bits, and even some wheels and tires!


Yes, the camber plate above is not a GC specific unit, its just a GD plate that's clocked to fit the GC. I've got more GC plates being made

There's now a formal challenge between Paul Magyar and Jason McCall to see who can finish their project car enough to "make a lap under its own power with no parts falling off". That's a much needed challenge. I'm trying to split my (very little) free time helping them both on their projects. After the 2010 SCCA Solo Nats in September and the $2010 GRM Challenge in October, I'll be a lot more freed up to pitch in.

More soon,

Last edited by Fair!; 12-16-2010 at 10:49 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

 


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:03 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.