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  • #46
    Re: Vorshlag 1991 BMW 318is





    We weighed the E30 last night, 2515#. It has at least 10 gallons of fuel (+70 ponds), the stock battery (+25 pounds), and stock and heavy wheels, tires, brakes, suspension, exhaust, and seats. We'll weigh it again after we get the AST 4100s on there, hopefully Saturday morning. That usually drops 6-8 pounds per corner.

    So, not as light as the lightest 1969 pound Civics in STS... but not terrible, either.
    Terry Fair - www.vorshlag.com
    2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
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    • #47
      Re: Vorshlag 1991 BMW 318is

      So are you thinking you could get it down to the 23XXlb range for STS? What's the hp advantage over the Civic?
      McCall

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      • #48
        Re: Vorshlag 1991 BMW 318is

        Originally posted by McCall
        So are you thinking you could get it down to the 23XXlb range for STS? What's the hp advantage over the Civic?
        ...and the torque deficit? Still it'd be cool if this car could be competitive in STS. If I move to Dallas, I'd p1mp it!

        T
        2001 Jeep Wrangler
        2001 Dodge 2500 Cummins

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        • #49
          Re: Vorshlag 1991 BMW 318is

          Originally posted by Tommy R
          ...and the torque deficit? Still it'd be cool if this car could be competitive in STS. If I move to Dallas, I'd p1mp it!

          T
          You will pimp what we tell you to pimp[/Fair]



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          • #50
            Re: Vorshlag 1991 BMW 318is

            I'm okay with that, too.
            2001 Jeep Wrangler
            2001 Dodge 2500 Cummins

            BMW E36 DIY's:
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            • #51
              Re: Vorshlag 1991 BMW 318is

              Originally posted by McCall
              So are you thinking you could get it down to the 23XXlb range for STS? What's the hp advantage over the Civic?
              Oh yeah. It still has the spare and full size battery for starters.

              1990 Civic Si
              108 hp, 100 lb-ft, 2291 lbs
              width: 66.3"

              1991 318is
              136hp, 127 lb-ft, 2515 lbs (27% more torque!)
              width: 64.8"

              Tommy, you're hired.
              Brian Hanchey
              AST Suspension - USA

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              • #52
                Re: Vorshlag 1991 BMW 318is

                Interesting. In STS trim, I wonder how those numbers compare? IOW, does a prepped Civic put out 130 hp and a 318 more or less....and of course it's be interesting to also see the power curves and compare power:weight. This would only address the straightline capability of the car in comparison to the Civic, but still nice to know.

                If I'm in Dallas next season, put me down as a tire beyotch.
                2001 Jeep Wrangler
                2001 Dodge 2500 Cummins

                BMW E36 DIY's:
                Front LCA Bushing Swap
                E36 Custom Cat Back
                M3 Limited Slip Diff Repair
                Diff Swap

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                • #53
                  Re: Vorshlag 1991 BMW 318is

                  I wonder what the 318is gearing is?
                  '11 Mustang GT / '95 Frankenpreza

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                  • #54
                    Re: Vorshlag 1991 BMW 318is

                    I believe 4.10. I bet the Civic is steeper, though. No LSD may hurt the 318, no?
                    2001 Jeep Wrangler
                    2001 Dodge 2500 Cummins

                    BMW E36 DIY's:
                    Front LCA Bushing Swap
                    E36 Custom Cat Back
                    M3 Limited Slip Diff Repair
                    Diff Swap

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                    • #55
                      Re: Vorshlag 1991 BMW 318is

                      Originally posted by Tommy R
                      I believe 4.10. I bet the Civic is steeper, though. No LSD may hurt the 318, no?
                      None of the STS cars can have an LSD. Well, if they came from the factory with a Viscous type LSd they can, but there's like one (heavy) FWD car that this applies to.

                      So yes, we have to minimize body roll to keep from unloading the inside rear.... set-up will be crucial, to allow the car to be full throttle everywhere.
                      Terry Fair - www.vorshlag.com
                      2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
                      EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev

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                      • #56
                        Re: Vorshlag 1991 BMW 318is

                        I see big springs and no rear bar in the 318's future.
                        2001 Jeep Wrangler
                        2001 Dodge 2500 Cummins

                        BMW E36 DIY's:
                        Front LCA Bushing Swap
                        E36 Custom Cat Back
                        M3 Limited Slip Diff Repair
                        Diff Swap

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                        • #57
                          Re: Vorshlag 1991 BMW 318is

                          Originally posted by Tommy R
                          I see big springs and no rear bar in the 318's future.
                          Maybe even some barbell weights mounted in the right rear trunk as well
                          McCall

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                          • #58
                            Re: Vorshlag 1991 BMW 318is

                            From Craigslist in Houston:

                            1991 BMW 318is, 5-Speed trans. Approx 190K miles.
                            The car runs good and has cold A/C, I have the title in hand.

                            Current tags and inspection
                            $1995 Cash!
                            Call me on my cell @ 713-894-0144


                            http://houston.craigslist.org/car/459338654.html

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                            • #59
                              Re: Vorshlag 1991 BMW 318is

                              Originally posted by Tommy R
                              I see big springs and no rear bar in the 318's future.
                              I brought home 750's last night to do the rear suspension Saturday afternoon while John naps. RSMs are on their last leg. They are sounding scary.
                              Brian Hanchey
                              AST Suspension - USA

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                              • #60
                                Re: Vorshlag 1991 BMW 318is

                                Some updates and pictures:


                                Motor is running great and looking good


                                Interior is cleaning up nicely


                                This was after the rear AST shocks & 750#/in, 2.5" dia springs were added


                                A single rear shock costs more than what we paid for the car!
                                Last edited by hancheyb; 10-29-2007, 08:19 AM.
                                Terry Fair - www.vorshlag.com
                                2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
                                EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev

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