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    Congrats to the Vorshlag boys on a 1/2 finish in STU in their respective cars. They sure did put on a good show for the AST guy. Paul was right there in the hunt as well. Amy and I jockeyed for 4th and I'm not sure who ended up in front. I spent the whole day plowing new fields unfortuantely but with Ronnie there (AST guy) he saw a few things that I need to change and I should have those done before the next event. Sean finished a very respectable 2nd in STX and should only get faster with fresh tires. MeL took STU-L as she continues to improve as well.

    There's a video up of the 3rd heat running through the first slalom and at the very end you see Cody's car literaly picking up the front tire on each turn http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=Hi8IGGENfoc

    Cody, how did you finish up?
    McCall

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    Re: SCCA Event #3 - TMS Bus Lot

    Well, I finished a hell of a lot better than I started, but still not good. I got DFL with I think a 52.2, and I think 50.9 won it. As you can see from that slalom video, I need less front bar and more seat time.
    Teucci has a good point about trannies - Tommy

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    • #3
      Re: SCCA Event #3 - TMS Bus Lot

      Originally posted by McCall
      Congrats to the Vorshlag boys on a 1/2 finish in STU in their respective cars. They sure did put on a good show for the AST guy. Paul was right there in the hunt as well. Amy and I jockeyed for 4th and I'm not sure who ended up in front. I spent the whole day plowing new fields unfortuantely but with Ronnie there (AST guy) he saw a few things that I need to change and I should have those done before the next event. Sean finished a very respectable 2nd in STX and should only get faster with fresh tires. MeL took STU-L as she continues to improve as well.

      There's a video up of the 3rd heat running through the first slalom and at the very end you see Cody's car literaly picking up the front tire on each turn http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=Hi8IGGENfoc

      Cody, how did you finish up?
      Thanks. It probably doesn't hurt we had the AST rep there. He might come to Nationals with us. He was interested in it.
      Brian Hanchey
      AST Suspension - USA

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      • #4
        Re: SCCA Event #3 - TMS Bus Lot

        Allrighty, played with DL-1 and AX22 data.
        • Paul out brakes me by 0.1g
        • Paul's old tires pulled the same g's on one side and more on the other, sorry Paul!
        • I was 3-5 mph faster than either Paul or Fair on the straight after the slalom
        • Fair wins the braking contest beating Paul by 0.2g
        • Paul's car pulls 0.1g more than me everytime he accelerates
        Brian Hanchey
        AST Suspension - USA

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        • #5
          Re: SCCA Event #3 - TMS Bus Lot

          Results are up:

          Raw:
          http://autocross.com/tr/tr307.shtml

          Pax:
          http://autocross.com/tr/tr307pax.shtml

          At least I didn't get last, phew.
          Teucci has a good point about trannies - Tommy

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            Re: SCCA Event #3 - TMS Bus Lot

            Ouch! I got snaked by .085 seconds. Nice job to Hanchey in his first weekend racing the STi. Lots of potential left in that car.

            Punky coned away to mid 52 runs and got bumped to 6th behind Henry! He had some fast raw times on new RE01Rs, too. More data favoring those tires...

            Good course. We have some GREAT pics we will post soon.
            Terry Fair - www.vorshlag.com
            2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
            EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev

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            • #7
              Re: SCCA Event #3 - TMS Bus Lot

              Originally posted by hancheyb
              Thanks. It probably doesn't hurt we had the AST rep there. He might come to Nationals with us. He was interested in it.
              That would be freakn' awesome. Do it! I'm sure he'd have fun.
              -Sean Martin
              2009 Pontiac G8 GT

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              • #8
                Re: SCCA Event #3 - TMS Bus Lot

                Originally posted by Fair!

                Punky coned away to mid 52 runs and got bumped to 6th behind Henry! He had some fast raw times on new RE01Rs, too. More data favoring those tires...
                Henry has never run Yoks so it would be hard to compare. We do know however that the RE01R's are superior in grip to the 615's. Henry mentioned that the B'stones have a softer sidewall than the 615's even though they are shorter aspect 40 vs 45.
                '11 Mustang GT / '95 Frankenpreza

                "A turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster."
                - Dr. Clarkson

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                • #9
                  Re: SCCA Event #3 - TMS Bus Lot

                  Originally posted by hancheyb
                  Allrighty, played with DL-1 and AX22 data.
                  • Paul's old tires pulled the same g's on one side and more on the other, sorry Paul!
                  I think this might be a good arguement to adding more camber. I am very curious to how much camber you have with you in the car.
                  '11 Mustang GT / '95 Frankenpreza

                  "A turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster."
                  - Dr. Clarkson

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                  • #10
                    Re: SCCA Event #3 - TMS Bus Lot

                    Originally posted by hancheyb
                    Allrighty, played with DL-1 and AX22 data.
                    • Paul's car pulls 0.1g more than me everytime he accelerates
                    Custom tuned STU map (me) vs. no map (Hanchey)
                    '11 Mustang GT / '95 Frankenpreza

                    "A turbo: exhaust gasses go into the turbocharger and spin it, witchcraft happens and you go faster."
                    - Dr. Clarkson

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                    • #11
                      Re: SCCA Event #3 - TMS Bus Lot

                      Originally posted by Paul
                      Henry has never run Yoks so it would be hard to compare. We do know however that the RE01R's are superior in grip to the 615's. Henry mentioned that the B'stones have a softer sidewall than the 615's even though they are shorter aspect 40 vs 45.
                      Paul are you going to try out the B'stones? I think you have had your set-up the longest and you have run multiple sets of both the 615s and Yoks. That could probably give us all the best feedback.
                      McCall

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                      • #12
                        Re: SCCA Event #3 - TMS Bus Lot

                        Originally posted by Paul
                        Henry has never run Yoks so it would be hard to compare. We do know however that the RE01R's are superior in grip to the 615's. Henry mentioned that the B'stones have a softer sidewall than the 615's even though they are shorter aspect 40 vs 45.
                        Interesting. I was actually wondering about that yesterday. How does the sidewall of the Yok compare to 615s?
                        -Sean Martin
                        2009 Pontiac G8 GT

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                        • #13
                          Re: SCCA Event #3 - TMS Bus Lot

                          There are pictures up (thanks Cody). That guy is a trixsy hobbit, because I didn't even know he took this picture
                          -Sean Martin
                          2009 Pontiac G8 GT

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                          • #14
                            Re: SCCA Event #3 - TMS Bus Lot

                            Originally posted by Paul
                            I think this might be a good arguement to adding more camber. I am very curious to how much camber you have with you in the car.
                            Hanchey re-posted new front and rear camber numbers in the STi setup thread in this forum. We changed the camber from Saturday to Sunday. Its at the setting you guys said "looked like 6 degrees" at the Pennington event... the numbers are higher than "what everyone on the internet recommends..." so it has to be wrong.

                            I kid!

                            And what's up with John Deere avatar McCall?? What changed in the car setup that made it all of a sudden an undrivable plow machine - it seemed to work well with the same exact setup at the previous 3 events where it won the class. I drove it for 1 run at Pennington and the slight push wasn't that terrible (hell, the M3 had the same push at low speeds).

                            Notice your fastest time was your first run... when you were driving conservatively. Your next 3 runs looked wildly overdriven. Hey, my best was run 2 and I think I had some of the same overdriving issues.

                            That said, Ronnie with AST did mention some potential for improvement with the rear rebound settings and we revalved another set of rears on Sunday night. Put those on and then quit driving like a crack whore. Don't be like some of us (me included) and immediately blame the car. Mel sure looked fast in it.
                            Terry Fair - www.vorshlag.com
                            2018 GT / S550 Dev + 2013 FR-S / 86 Dev + 2011 GT / S197 Dev + C4 Corvette Dev
                            EVO X Dev + 2007 Z06 / C6 Dev + BMW E46 Dev + C5 Corvette Dev

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                            • #15
                              Re: SCCA Event #3 - TMS Bus Lot

                              More camber needed?

                              Paul




                              Brian




                              Terry




                              MeLinda

                              Last edited by Paul; 05-08-2007, 11:16 AM.
                              '11 Mustang GT / '95 Frankenpreza

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